Neilds
Assistant Pro
Exactly, and the torque felt on off centre putts will be so little a small child could counteract it. Marketing guff
L.A.B golf putters
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nickjdavis
Head Pro
But LAB arent claiming to solve the issue of torque on off center putts are they?
Neilds
Assistant Pro
According to the reply to my comment on Insta, their putters "are designed to reduce twisting and promote a consistent stroke.." They state "a remarkable reduction (in torque) compared to conventional models".
But they fail to say how much torque is felt using a conventional putter - probably because it is minimal. After all, the swing speed with a putter s so low and you aren't hitting a fixed object so the reaction will be very small.
Crow
Crow Person
As a committed blade user (or on occasion a small headed mallet) I once borrowed a Spider.
The stability throughout the stroke was far greater than I was expecting, I felt like I couldn't miss.
Modern Spider and LAB type putters certainly do what they claim and are very easy to use, the head is much less likely to move out of square during the stroke in my admittedly limited experience.
The stability throughout the stroke was far greater than I was expecting, I felt like I couldn't miss.
Modern Spider and LAB type putters certainly do what they claim and are very easy to use, the head is much less likely to move out of square during the stroke in my admittedly limited experience.
nickjdavis
Head Pro
But its not twisting due to off center striking that they are talking about.
It is rotational twisting due to imbalances in the head during the stroke that they are claiming to solve/minimise....so their claim is that the LAB putters stay naturally square to the swing-path, whereas other putters have a tendency to want to rotate open/closed at various points during the stroke.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Not just a 'tendency' - toe-hang putters are actually designed to do that on purpose. Some industry person a long time ago obviously decided that this is desirable. I don't really get it myself, not sure why you would want your putter opening and closing itself. I've switched to face-balanced this year and it's just better. Obviously LAB have decided that toe-hang benefit is a myth as well.
jimbob.someroo
Journeyman Pro
I'm on my second LAB putter at the moment. I previously won a DF3 in a charity raffle at the start of the year, and although liked it a lot, the head felt a little light for me.
Recently picked up a Mezz Max broom. However, it's at 41.5" which is ideal for me as I can still get more over the ball. More Adam Scott than Bernard Langer in style - although that's where the similarities stop.
I think the prices are punchy, but definitely rolling it better with the broom; not just from comments from regular playing partners but backed up by my own putting stats. Averaging 27-28 putts a round which is massively down on my 32 or so throughout the main part of the season.
Big thing with them is to basically get out of the putter's way. It sort of wants to return to square, and so I think they're at their most effective with light grip pressure and a pretty relaxed overall stroke.
Recently picked up a Mezz Max broom. However, it's at 41.5" which is ideal for me as I can still get more over the ball. More Adam Scott than Bernard Langer in style - although that's where the similarities stop.
I think the prices are punchy, but definitely rolling it better with the broom; not just from comments from regular playing partners but backed up by my own putting stats. Averaging 27-28 putts a round which is massively down on my 32 or so throughout the main part of the season.
Big thing with them is to basically get out of the putter's way. It sort of wants to return to square, and so I think they're at their most effective with light grip pressure and a pretty relaxed overall stroke.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Bumping this again, because My Golf Spy appear to have made their minds up. LAB putters beat conventional types hands-down.
mygolfspy.com
They even suggest that, following PXG's lead here, other major manufacturers will all be releasing their own LAB-style 'zero torque' putters.
I would so love to try a LAB but god knows where I can do that.
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They even suggest that, following PXG's lead here, other major manufacturers will all be releasing their own LAB-style 'zero torque' putters.
I would so love to try a LAB but god knows where I can do that.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
As previously mentioned, I am super sceptical about the whole torque thing. I think that most of the twisting of the putter face in the stroke is induced by our body movements and don't think that the design of the putter can stop the body twisting the club face. I am wondering if, in the GolfSpy test, that the people putting changed their technique to go straight back and forward, as opposed to their usual stroke.
And they still look ugly!
And they still look ugly!
JonnyGutteridge
Newbie
Story time… I developed the putting yips last year, and again this year. I had a lesson to look at some of my issues, and had toe hang explained to me properly… I could not get my head around the fact that my putter is designed to open and close through the stroke - when my brain just wants to go straight back and through.
Even the most low toe hang Scotty Cameron wants to open and close somewhat.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Yeah.. I believed in the whole toe-hang myth ever since the fitting I had in 2017-ish (you can even see on page 1 of this topic I still believed it in 2022, haha). But since switching to a face-balanced mallet this year it just feels infinitely better. I really think toe-hang is just an idea that someone had donkey's years ago which has stuck, until now it seems LAB are finally disproving it as a theory, and MyGolfSpy agree.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
I struggle with even a minimal open, square, closed action on my toe hang Anser PLD. The milled Odyssey #9 protype is a half moon and significantly toe hung and I feel that is easier to control. My 2 ball V-Fang Odyssey mallet is face balanced and perhaps no surprise I am putting better with that and it is in the bag
