Jose Mourinho's Chelsea

[Snelly]

Can you see us all the way down here from your high horse.........

I am too busy watching Sky Sports News for another world shattering story of total insignificance.

Thankfully, it is near the end of the chavball season..... What will you all write about on a golf forum then?????

 

[Snelly]

Yet you still felt you needed to comment

Yes. Compelled through irritation.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

The EPL was still exciting before the sugar daddies arrived

Since they have arrived only 3 teams have won the Prem - the two sugar daddy teams and the Mancs

How many won it before their arrival. Man U, Arsenal and a one-off from Blackburn who, in the context of the day, bought the title. Not all that exciting!

As for the future I am not certain that Abramovich or the Abu Dhabi sheiks will continue to throw unlimited resources at their clubs without there being some significant progress towards self-sufficiency.

 

[Pin-seeker]

It's not the same at all for the other clubs - no one has spent the amount Chelsea have in the last ten years - Man UTD it's about £400mil ( half of what Chelsea have spent )

PSG and Monaco have been on par for the last 2/3 years

Madrid have a blow out every couple of seasons normally when a new manager arrives

Barcelona normally spend big on the odd player but nowhere near the other teams , Bayern are about the same as the Mancs

But no one comes close it consistent 100 mil a year spending like Chelsea have over the last 10 years.

It is part of the modern game and it's something that UEFA are trying to curb hence the introduction of FFP and currently clubs under investigation ( including PSG and City ) - so hopefully it won't be here to stay.

Those 4 clubs hang on the whim of one person - Malaga have already seen what happens when that one man says he has had enough.

I'm sure Uefa will sort it out & then maybe all teams will do it the right way,the Liverpool way :whoo:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Huge difference when set up for counter attack football which was achieved against Liverpool and just sitting deep with no thought of pushing forward, the donkey spent more time in the 18yd box than outfield that day! Chelsea provided the 1st shots on target, the 1st saves, 1st corner and so on, quite simply Liverpool couldn't or didn't change their approach or tactics even though they weren't working right from the off! Liverpool had no plan B which will be their downfall in Europe if they don't find one.

Well we had the first corner and you had the first shot from long range

You sat deep - hence the pics around twitter with you having all 11 men in the box at times ( and not from set pieces )

It wasn't much different from the West Ham game - it worked for West Ham and it worked for Chelsea but let's not kid yourself that it was much different.

 

[Papas1982]

I am too busy watching Sky Sports News for another world shattering story of total insignificance.

Thankfully, it is near the end of the chavball season..... What will you all write about on a golf forum then?????

In the out of bounds section? Hmmm maybe anything non golf related so the golf only forum members won't see it unless they want to point score......

of course there's a wc this summer too so I'm sure we can prolong your need for feeling smug and better than us mere footy fans.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'm sure Uefa will sort it out & then maybe all teams will do it the right way,the Liverpool way :whoo:

Remember what I said earlier about worthwhile comments

When did anyone ever mention the right way being the Liverpool way ?

I guess those sort of comments only come out when a few facts dismiss a few myths

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Another fascinating, childish, petty squabble over something that you think means the world but really, means nothing.

Premier League football is a decency vacuum. The enlightened can see this.

Cannot quite see how you would know what the enlightened can see as none of your posts have ever suggested any level of enlightenment on your part.

As has often been said if you think any thread might be, to your eyes, boring then ignore it and move onto something that is more to your taste.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yes. Compelled through irritation.

Maybe it's far easier to be compelled to ignore the thread

You knew what the thread would be about when you read the title - yet you still read it knowing it's going to be people talking about football ?

 

[Pin-seeker]

Remember what I said earlier about worthwhile comments

When did anyone ever mention the right way being the Liverpool way ?

I guess those sort of comments only come out when a few facts dismiss a few myths

Ok boss I'll bare that in mind :thup:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Ok boss I'll bare that in mind :thup:

If only that was true

 

[Papas1982]

Well we had the first corner and you had the first shot from long range

You sat deep - hence the pics around twitter with you having all 11 men in the box at times ( and not from set pieces )

It wasn't much different from the West Ham game - it worked for West Ham and it worked for Chelsea but let's not kid yourself that it was much different.

Chelsea scored two goals, west ham didn't score any. Big difference there.

Maybe be chelsea did use a couple of buses, but I'd say they lane hogged instead of parked them.

Much like most bug teams will do in away games of significance, to not lose was important to win maybe. But Chelsea still had intent. That's why he played wingers with a bit if pace.

 

[Rooter]

I am too busy watching Sky Sports News for another world shattering story of total insignificance.

Thankfully, it is near the end of the chavball season..... What will you all write about on a golf forum then?????

Don't worry Snelly, its a world cup year!! Yay!

 

[bluewolf]

You know what they say about statistics don't you?
As you have access to these stats, can you break them down into televised games only, and prioritize those games that include teams who were in the top 6 at the time and therefore playing for a decent prize. It might also help to make a different list for European games, with a bias towards the later stages, especially including English teams..

Or, you could take anecdotal evidence that suggests that there is an awful lot of games on TV that may be quality viewing for those with a vested interest, but contain very little to attract newer viewers to the Sport..

yeah stats can be manipulated to show anything. They can also show a truth but people hide behind one little phrase when they don't have a way to validly counter it except make a funny.

Having been a season ticket holder for 14 years, I don't think the game has got any worse at all. TV games are a lottery, there's no guarantee that the game of the weekend will be the one shown.

The main barometer for games is generally goals, yeah you have exceptional 0-0's but generally nobody bemoans a 4-3. So if as many games as ever are being scored I fail to see how the product has become worse.

Orher than people over reacting to the fact that a tactician beat Rodgers.

You do take these Football threads very seriously don't you? A cynic may think that you were employed in the game in some sort of PR/TV role..

Anyhoo, I did counter your stats by asking you to provide more relevant stats to the actual argument..

The point I was making was that the game may have become more technically excellent at the top level, but that this excellence may not be something that would appeal to the part time fan who wants to watch exciting Sport on TV. Several other sports are more easily accessible on a part time basis. For a sport that is so reliant on TV viewers (and it's not the only one obviously), then the onus is on the teams to provide excitement in one form or another.

Edit - I look forward to some informative posts on this thread as it is interesting, but I'll probably bow out of posting as I should have known better than to get involved really.. A lot of threads on this forum are tending towards acrimony and petty squabbling and I get enough of that elsewhere..

 

[Papas1982]

You do take these Football threads very seriously don't you? A cynic may think that you were employed in the game in some sort of PR/TV role..

Anyhoo, I did counter your stats by asking you to provide more relevant stats to the actual argument..

The point I was making was that the game may have become more technically excellent at the top level, but that this excellence may not be something that would appeal to the part time fan who wants to watch exciting Sport on TV. Several other sports are more easily accessible on a part time basis. For a sport that is so reliant on TV viewers (and it's not the only one obviously), then the onus is on the teams to provide excitement in one form or another.

Edit - I look forward to some informative posts on this thread as it is interesting, but I'll probably bow out of posting as I should have known better than to get involved really.. A lot of threads on this forum are tending towards acrimony and petty squabbling and I get enough of that elsewhere..

Unfortunately my job is much more mundane than working in football I'm afraid.
All though I don't agree that the game is any more boring, I can kinda understand your point on an entertainment front. The problem is, end of season or semi finals have so much riding on them that results matter most. I'm sure someone can recall plenty if dull games at start if season but as they're deemed insignificant they haven't received the thread this has.

Re your request for extra stats, I simply did a quick google and found figures that suggested the product was very much the same. Finding all the details you requested obvsiouslg would have been far more time consuming and still inconclusive as the entertainment is purely people's opinions. But by the same token, I don't see how you can claim it's less entertaining based in your opinion but need me to prove it instead of having the opinio it's the same.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Understand that again Maureen didn't shake a fellow managers hand after the game. At least he is consistent I suppose

 

[Fish]

Understand that again Maureen didn't shake a fellow managers hand after the game. At least he is consistent I suppose

You clutch to this like your historic comfort blanket but its obviously nothing or the press would be all over it, wouldn't they? There is nothing to say that they can't arrange to shake hands afterwards in the tunnel or in the managers office whilst sharing a bottle of red, it doesn't have to be open and in public view, or is it in the rules they have to? I don't think so. The old wife is creeping to the fore again, at first you were gracious in defeat and now old Phillip has returned to pour unjustified scorn :rofl:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You clutch to this like your historic comfort blanket but its obviously nothing or the press would be all over it, wouldn't they? There is nothing to say that they can't arrange to shake hands afterwards in the tunnel or in the managers office whilst sharing a bottle of red, it doesn't have to be open and in public view, or is it in the rules they have to? I don't think so. The old wife is creeping to the fore again, at first you were gracious in defeat and now old Phillip has returned to pour unjustified scorn :rofl:

Well BR has already said that he went to shake hands with Maureen but he ran off down the tunnel and there was no after match drink as Maureen also refused that. Like I said he is disrespectful but at least he is consistent. There are some things money can't buy.

Sorry if that doesn't go along with your theory - it's ok Fish - most know what he is like anyway :thup:

 

[chrisd]

I've been to 15 home games this season and watched my team off and on when I can since 1965, this season I've seen some of the worlds best players and I've absolutely loved it! I suspect that most complainants of the premiership are armchair fans where you font get the real picture and can't sample the atmosphere.

Yesterday's game was a bit sterile as we didn't need anything from the game for the first time this season, but to see the likes of Toure, Nasri,Milner et al is why you get a season ticket as is, beating Chelsea and winning 5 games in a row. Football in the Premiership is really awesome and I'm sorry if anyone just can't see that

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I've been to 15 home games this season and watched my team off and on when I can since 1965, this season I've seen some of the worlds best players and I've absolutely loved it! I suspect that most complainants of the premiership are armchair fans where you font get the real picture and can't sample the atmosphere.

Yesterday's game was a bit sterile as we didn't need anything from the game for the first time this season, but to see the likes of Toure, Nasri,Milner et al is why you get a season ticket as is, beating Chelsea and winning 5 games in a row. Football in the Premiership is really awesome and I'm sorry if anyone just can't see that

I would suspect that if Fulham were up near the top of the table the entertainment value might increase for the Fulham fans

Unlucky yesterday - was a good game to watch