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I agree but some of it is just plain tedious, there's no risk/reward, just ultra conservative or double bogey. The RBC at harbour town is a good example of a tournament that gets it right.
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I agree but some of it is just plain tedious, there's no risk/reward, just ultra conservative or double bogey. The RBC at harbour town is a good example of a tournament that gets it right.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
I think they mostly got it right. Pros having to hit drivers to par 3s is a bit silly in my book, the rough at times looked virtually impossible to get out of and seeing pros hack it forwards 20 yards out of said rough isn't really my idea of fun. Plus the pin placement on a few holes was just ridiculous and did not encourage any golfer to fire at them so you were looking at a par at best on some holes. I am sure the chap who set it up was interviewed before hand and said that in addition to the stern test he also wanted the give the golfers chances to get birdies so there was some excitement in the rounds. Well I didn't see too much of that.
But then again it asked them to play shots they don't normally do and called for a different more patient approach to the usual target golf you get in most tournaments nowadays. I'd of preferred the winner to be under par, but then again prefer the winning score last night to someone shooting 17 under par.
But then again it asked them to play shots they don't normally do and called for a different more patient approach to the usual target golf you get in most tournaments nowadays. I'd of preferred the winner to be under par, but then again prefer the winning score last night to someone shooting 17 under par.
BTatHome
Tour Winner
Not sure all the comments about driver on par 3's are valid. How many actually hit driver on the par 3, only one I saw was Luke (who is not the longest of the pro's) and he missed the green by a long way. At 266, most of them are hitting long irons and many of them hit 300 yards with there 3woods most weeks on the tour. Difference this week? They didn't want to be off the fairways, so hit shorter. Doesn't explain why Luke etc felt it necessary to hit driver on a 266 yard par 3 though!
mpluis
Club Champion
It´s like F1, there are tracks that are boring, where if you make a mistake there is lots of tarmac around, them there is Monaco,
where great control is a must, and any mistake is payed at the spot, only great players with great ball control, not only off the tee
but every were mostly important those NOT FLAT GREENS! that wedge play have to be sharp and putting equally. that is the pinnacle of the game, and were it gets boring week in week out.
where great control is a must, and any mistake is payed at the spot, only great players with great ball control, not only off the tee
but every were mostly important those NOT FLAT GREENS! that wedge play have to be sharp and putting equally. that is the pinnacle of the game, and were it gets boring week in week out.
TheJezster
Tour Rookie
There were several who hit driver, Mahan was another.
It required around 270 carry with the wind, so that explains why they hit the driver, as the 3 wood wouldnt reach.
Simples ;-)
Stuey01
Journeyman Pro
The par 3 was playing over 270 on Sunday and into the wind.
The problem is where was the option on playing a 2 shotter? It was green or dead in thick rough, no lay up area. I get all the comments that what the par is set at is irrelevant, just what they actually score. But there was no option other than to go at the green. Some may have taken a 2 shot strategy had it been an option.
The problem is where was the option on playing a 2 shotter? It was green or dead in thick rough, no lay up area. I get all the comments that what the par is set at is irrelevant, just what they actually score. But there was no option other than to go at the green. Some may have taken a 2 shot strategy had it been an option.
Andy808
Tour Winner
The course was setup so you had to hit the fairway to give yourself any chance of going for the pin positions. Too many courses in the US are setup so even if your in the rough it's so short the ball sits up and they can still go for the pin.
It shows that courses don't need to be made longer, they need to made tighter, so that it's a test of accuracy not just a test of who can whack it the furthest.
Merion showed that to great effect and I hope the USPGA realise they can make courses harder without constantly pushing tees back and club manufacturers start working on making clubs go straighter not longer.
It shows that courses don't need to be made longer, they need to made tighter, so that it's a test of accuracy not just a test of who can whack it the furthest.
Merion showed that to great effect and I hope the USPGA realise they can make courses harder without constantly pushing tees back and club manufacturers start working on making clubs go straighter not longer.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Oh don't talk such rot. If Rose didn't have a speed pocket in the Stage 2 RBZ 3 wood when playing that shot just off the green on the 18th, that chip may have finished at least a foot short. Yes, not so dismissive of TM extra yards claim now are we???
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
If the aim was to humble the worlds best it was mission accomplished... Wouldn't wish to watch similiar week in week out... Once in a while is OK though... Loved the look of the course but wouldn't wish to play it as it was set up for the pro's...
Airlie_Andy
Challenge Tour Pro
If the pros could actually hit a fairway with an iron in hand someone might have gone under par. The amount of times an iron off the tee ended up in the rough was just stupid. Has the modern pro sacrificed accuracy with the longer clubs in favour of just bombing it out there as far as possible?
cookelad
Tour Winner
Thought the whole course looked more like we're used to over here, I know we don't get the same types of grasses unless they're specially planted, like you say I around the greens I didn't really see anything out of the ordinary to us pay-to-play-hackers!
Stuey01
Journeyman Pro
LOL at the course set up looking like something we have over here on an average hack's course... That's a good one, ha ha.
Deke
Journeyman Pro
Have you ever played north of the border Stuey? We have rough people get lost in, no joke!
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
It was difficult to hit because the wind was directly into the tee.
There was a long par 3 later on in the course that was well over 200 yards and players were going in with a 6-iron.
The course length was 6996 yards. If it had been 5 yards longer, would people be calling it long or short?
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
Well said.
Also, how many putts were left short on the last two days, the majority from what I could see. I also enjoyed it, no other turnament I can think of has such low scoring, so it's nice for a change.
Birchy
Money List Winner
Sick of seeing pros bombing it all over the place and playing the same shot out of the rough as they do on the fairway because the rough is so tame. Hitting it in the stands and getting free drops on a nice patch of grass gets on my nerves too.
The rough should be rough and hard to play from, some of the greens were slightly silly but apart from that it was great. Golf is meant to be a hard game!
The rough should be rough and hard to play from, some of the greens were slightly silly but apart from that it was great. Golf is meant to be a hard game!
groundskeeperwilly
Q-School Graduate
I thought the course was good and really enjoyed watching some of the players trying to craft shots and rescue from situations we don't normally see. BTW went there a few experts saying that the scores would be mega low before the event as the pro's would bomb round it easily?
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Think you've got to be careful as going down the Merion route too often would result in courses becoming 'tricked-up' as pros adapted their games accordingly. And I for one am not a fan of tricked-up golf. US greens for me are verging on 'tricked-up' - and I can envisage rough being grown and cut likewise. I see a differentiation between 'protecting' a golf course and tricking it up. The way Merion was set up was interesting and made for me good viewing - but I wouldn't want to see too much tournamenrt golf played on courses set up that way.
