Is there still a North/South divide?

[Sharktooth]

Gorgie boy,aye?

As much as it might surprise some one here, the one fight I've been in in my entire life was defending England/an English friend from Scottish stupidity.

As for the original question, I think there is, and as proof, us in the north are prepared to let you keep Nigel Farage

Hahaha... Gorgie. I know it well, had a few mates from Dalry as well. Gorgie was awrite compared to where I grew up. Stopped for a pint in Ryries last time I was in Edinburger!

 

[louise_a]

To compound matters there is a lack of investment in infrastructure, particularly public transport. London is gaining the new CrossRail development to complement the already superb travel network. I have an office in Irlam which is 28 miles away from home. To get there on public transport takes over 2 hours.

In fairness Lee, Rossendale to Irlam, isn't the most common commute and its well served by motorways if you wanted to drive. I also reckon you could do Rawtenstall to Irlam on just 2 buses. Also around Manchester the Metrolink is very good and is expanding. You get from Bury (not far from Rossendale) to Eccles (not far from Irlam) on Metrolink, granted to might take a while as both the tram and the bus goes through the centre of Manchester.

 

[Whee]

A tram, Louise? What is this contraption you speak of?!?

 

[bigslice]

defo, anywhere south of North Ayrshire is south

 

[Liverbirdie]

Territorial based disagreements will always occur. Mackems, Geordies, Smoggies and Monkey Hangers will slate each other with glee, but they'll soon join sides if a Southerner starts dishing it out.

Likewise, with Scousers and Mancs, yet they'll join together agsint Yorkshire.

It's what makes Britain hilarious.

In respect of the OP, I believe the divide is now Outside M25 against inside M25. The country and it's rulers are too London-centric.

Your right in the main.

I see everyone outside the paradise of Liverpool as "different". Doesn't mean I don't like them though.

Generally though, I don't think scousers have any tribal feelings towards Yorkshire though. Maybe Manchester does (MUFC v LUFC) and the cricket roses thing, but in Liverpool we don't buy into the Lancashire cricket team much.

I think it is more of a anti-London centric thing in reality, but we lump anyone sounding "southern" in together. I know there are oo-ar Somerest speakers, oo-ar Norfolk, cockneys and other different in accents, but until you get to Brum, we can't much tell the difference between you.

Slightly the same for the north east, where outsiders can't much tell the difference between smoggies, mackems and geordies. Yorkshire similar, lancashire also and greater Manchester.

I think scouse is one of the few accents that is absolutely instantly recognisable to outsiders, but is only spoken in Liverpool, Wirral and a 5 mile radius of Liverpool.

We need a war and we will all be one again. Criticism, jealousies, attack will make us one nation again. It's probably the same everywhere else, but it is rife in the UK.

 

[Val]

South of the M4 = No sense of humour, self righteous
North of the M4 = likeable approachable people who know how to treat and speak to people, have a sense of humour

;-)

Fixed that for you

 

[duncan mackie]

it's colder up North

even if it becomes warmer overall, it will still be colder up North for a long time to come.

 

[stevie_r]

Your right in the main.

I see everyone outside the paradise of Liverpool as "different". Doesn't mean I don't like them though.

Generally though, I don't think scousers have any tribal feelings towards Yorkshire though. Maybe Manchester does (MUFC v LUFC) and the cricket roses thing, but in Liverpool we don't buy into the Lancashire cricket team much.

I think it is more of a anti-London centric thing in reality, but we lump anyone sounding "southern" in together. I know there are oo-ar Somerest speakers, oo-ar Norfolk, cockneys and other different in accents, but until you get to Brum, we can't much tell the difference between you.

Slightly the same for the north east, where outsiders can't much tell the difference between smoggies, mackems and geordies. Yorkshire similar, lancashire also and greater Manchester.

I think scouse is one of the few accents that is absolutely instantly recognisable to outsiders, but is only spoken in Liverpool, Wirral and a 5 mile radius of Liverpool.

We need a war and we will all be one again. Criticism, jealousies, attack will make us one nation again. It's probably the same everywhere else, but it is rife in the UK.

It is a genetically programmed alarm signal for non-scousers

 

[Liverbirdie]

It is a genitally programmed alarm signal for non-scousers

Fixed that for you - especially your women.:ears:

 

[Rooter]

Fixed that for you

Lol thanks mate!

 

[user2009]

Territorial based disagreements will always occur. Mackems, Geordies, Smoggies and Monkey Hangers will slate each other with glee, but they'll soon join sides if a Southerner starts dishing it out.

Likewise, with Scousers and Mancs, yet they'll join together agsint Yorkshire.

It's what makes Britain hilarious.

In respect of the OP, I believe the divide is now Outside M25 against inside M25. The country and it's rulers are too London-centric.

This is so true then once every 2 years we're all Eng-er land :rofl: The country is as mad as a box of frogs

 

[Mr A]

South of the M4 = garden of England, lovely people, great weather
North of the M4 = grim, miserable people, always rains

;-)

I live about quarter of a mile north of the M4, explains a lot.

 

[Val]

This is so true then once every 2 years we're all Eng-er land :rofl: The country is as mad as a box of frogs

Not everyone

 

[LeeTurner]

In fairness Lee, Rossendale to Irlam, isn't the most common commute and its well served by motorways if you wanted to drive. I also reckon you could do Rawtenstall to Irlam on just 2 buses. Also around Manchester the Metrolink is very good and is expanding. You get from Bury (not far from Rossendale) to Eccles (not far from Irlam) on Metrolink, granted to might take a while as both the tram and the bus goes through the centre of Manchester.

That was just an example. Every week I travel to London on the train from Piccadilly. I have to leave home at 5:35 in order to catch the 07:35 from Piccadilly and the journey consists of a 20 minute drive, 40 minute train journey, wait for the tram to get across Manchester and if all goes well arrive at Piccadilly by 7:15. The alternative is to drive the 45 minutes and then pay £16 a day to Dick Turpin for parking.
In London it would probably be a zone 3 or 4 tube journey.

 

[stevie_r]

Not everyone

See well every two years we are all united, every two years the Jockanese are divided between the three teams that are in England's group

 

[Val]

See well every two years we are all united, every two years the Jockanese are divided between the three teams that are in England's group

Not divided we have equal support for all 3 teams in the group

We need to support someone as we are never there ourselves :mmm:

 

[thecraw]

Once the wall is rebuilt and independence kicks in the divide will be complete!

Implement a golf course tax for visitors.

 

[bluewolf]

Once the wall is rebuilt and independence kicks in the divide will be complete!

Implement a golf course tax for visitors.

Aye, and we'll implement Buckfast tax in Blackpool. The Scots and Mancs will pay for the NHS on their own.....

 

[louise_a]

That was just an example. Every week I travel to London on the train from Piccadilly. I have to leave home at 5:35 in order to catch the 07:35 from Piccadilly and the journey consists of a 20 minute drive, 40 minute train journey, wait for the tram to get across Manchester and if all goes well arrive at Piccadilly by 7:15. The alternative is to drive the 45 minutes and then pay £16 a day to Dick Turpin for parking.
In London it would probably be a zone 3 or 4 tube journey.

fair enough, but you do live in a fairly out of the way place, in relation to Manchester, I drove from Burnley to Manchester for 20 years until I gave in and moved, its far more convenient to Manchester here, but I miss being 5 minutes from the moors.

 

[duncan mackie]

Once the wall is rebuilt and independence kicks in the divide will be complete!

Implement a golf course tax for visitors.

you won't have any golf courses - they will all have been ploughed up for crops........