Is there still a North/South divide?

Having lived 25 years south of and the rest of my life north of I would agree that the M4 is a good yardstick.
But I would include people who live and work in Cornwall as special case 'northerners'.
 
So they are donning their flat caps, letting the pigeons out and taking the whippet for a walk to the working mans club in High Wycombe tonight :confused:
 
bluewolf said:
Theres not many people who live AND work in Cornwall TBH...:whistle:
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TBH there aren't that many that actually live here at all now, far too many second homes and homes owned by big corporations ready to give to a big wig when they retire.
There is another big difference in that we have low wages but our services are dearer than most of the rest of the country and it's the residents that are paying for it. We pay £20 a WEEK for water with over half that for getting rid of the stuff. Everyone loves coming down here for the "fresh air" and "crystal clear water" but pay sod all to keep it that way.
 
Andy808 said:
TBH there aren't that many that actually live here at all now, far too many second homes and homes owned by big corporations ready to give to a big wig when they retire.
There is another big difference in that we have low wages but our services are dearer than most of the rest of the country and it's the residents that are paying for it. We pay £20 a WEEK for water with over half that for getting rid of the stuff. Everyone loves coming down here for the "fresh air" and "crystal clear water" but pay sod all to keep it that way.
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I looked into the living costs when me and the Family were thinking about moving down a few years ago. It didn't take long to decide that it wasn't feasible unless you had a suitcase full of cash behind you. Beautiful place, but seemingly out of reach of us mere mortals...
 
bluewolf said:
I looked into the living costs when me and the Family were thinking about moving down a few years ago. It didn't take long to decide that it wasn't feasible unless you had a suitcase full of cash behind you. Beautiful place, but seemingly out of reach of us mere mortals...
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It is stunningly beautiful, especially in the autumn/winter when there are no emmits about. You don't need a suitcase full of case, although it does help, but you do need to slim down your spending a fair bit. I think the biggest thing that puts people off is the price of houses. In a recent development near to us they had affordable housing within it, £200,000 for a 3 bedroom house, which is way out of most peoples budget on wages down here. It doesn't help when a plot of land with outline planning went for £160,000 without even putting a spade in the ground.
 
Andy808 said:
TBH there aren't that many that actually live here at all now, far too many second homes and homes owned by big corporations ready to give to a big wig when they retire.
There is another big difference in that we have low wages but our services are dearer than most of the rest of the country and it's the residents that are paying for it. We pay £20 a WEEK for water with over half that for getting rid of the stuff. Everyone loves coming down here for the "fresh air" and "crystal clear water" but pay sod all to keep it that way.
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Yet another case of t' North, Scotland and Cornwall financially propping up the South.
 
I don't know about a North South divide really. I am not sure anyone cares any more.

I grew up in Yorkshire, went to school in Manchester then moved south chasing various women and now reside in Sussex so am well placed to discuss the relative merits of England's regions.

The south is great with loads of lovely places to live. The weather, food, beer, wine, countryside, beaches and income levels are generally much better. Plus, being surrounded by southerners, it means I am logically and quite clearly, the hardest bloke in our village.

As for the north? It is grim. I don't miss it one bit and will never live there again. Whenever family or friends from Sheffield come to stay with us, they always say how nice it is and how fantastic it would be to live where we do. Unfortunately they can't because they are too poor and have bad table manners so would not really fit in. We have to send them back to the provinces where they soon settle again, surrounded by the comfort of suet based food and safe in the knowledge that it could be much worse..........they could live in Leeds.
 
Snelly said:
I don't know about a North South divide really. I am not sure anyone cares any more.

I grew up in Yorkshire, went to school in Manchester then moved south chasing various women and now reside in Sussex so am well placed to discuss the relative merits of England's regions.

The south is great with loads of lovely places to live. The weather, food, beer, wine, countryside, beaches and income levels are generally much better. Plus, being surrounded by southerners, it means I am logically and quite clearly, the hardest bloke in our village.

As for the north? It is grim. I don't miss it one bit and will never live there again. Whenever family or friends from Sheffield come to stay with us, they always say how nice it is and how fantastic it would be to live where we do. Unfortunately they can't because they are too poor and have bad table manners so would not really fit in. We have to send them back to the provinces where they soon settle again, surrounded by the comfort of suet based food and safe in the knowledge that it could be much worse..........they could live in Leeds.
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:rofl: You even got a decent sense of humour when you moved darn saff then?!

I went to Barnsley once..... on the lash with a mate in February! V interesting place..... David Attenborough should do a documentary there! :o Those girls are seriously hard core wearing those clothes in that weather!! I felt for my life at times! ;)
 
Sharktooth said:
Tell you what, I was born and raised in the armpit of the planet in a dead and declining toilet in Scotland. When I was 23 I got a new job and relocated to Somerset and never in my life had I been made so welcome somewhere. Lovely, lovely people, so friendly, polite and such a beautiful part of the UK. You know the worst part? It was going back to visit my parents in Scotland and listen to anti English vitriol from trolls who had only ever been to Blackpool. I think I must be the only Scotsman who has battered another scot for slagging off the English.
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Absolutely spot on. And I get that sort of guff you talk of from family and friends in Scotland to this day. I haven't smacked anyone but I've given a few folk a piece of my mind. It's one of the reasons I would find it difficult to move back to Scotland having lived in south of England for 30yrs. The same ignorant attitude that many Scots seem to have of the English seems to infect the attitude of northern-English towards those living in the SE of England. All borne out of ignorance and prejudice based upon media representations of a minority.
 
Snelly said:
I don't know about a North South divide really. I am not sure anyone cares any more.

I grew up in Yorkshire, went to school in Manchester then moved south chasing various women and now reside in Sussex so am well placed to discuss the relative merits of England's regions.

The south is great with loads of lovely places to live. The weather, food, beer, wine, countryside, beaches and income levels are generally much better. Plus, being surrounded by southerners, it means I am logically and quite clearly, the hardest bloke in our village.

As for the north? It is grim. I don't miss it one bit and will never live there again. Whenever family or friends from Sheffield come to stay with us, they always say how nice it is and how fantastic it would be to live where we do. Unfortunately they can't because they are too poor and have bad table manners so would not really fit in. We have to send them back to the provinces where they soon settle again, surrounded by the comfort of suet based food and safe in the knowledge that it could be much worse..........they could live in Leeds.
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Post of the year contender right there people!

Especially : Plus, being surrounded by southerners, it means I am logically and quite clearly, the hardest bloke in our village. And : Unfortunately they can't because they are too poor and have bad table manners so would not really fit in
 
Having lived in:

The West Midlands
North Yorks
Berks
Oxon
Hants
London

I will offer my two-penneth.

At all points of the compass in our nation you will find:

Great scenery & Eyesores
Affluent areas & Less affluent areas
Decent people & scum of the earth
Welcoming people & very insular/ bigoted people

It has nothing to do with a line on the imaginary map in your mind.

edit - My first wife was a Barnsley lass, I avoid the place now :)
 
stevie_r said:
Having lived in:

The West Midlands
North Yorks
Berks
Oxon
Hants
London

I will offer my two-penneth.

At all points of the compass in our nation you will find:

Great scenery & Eyesores
Affluent areas & Less affluent areas
Decent people & scum of the earth
Welcoming people & very insular/ bigoted people

It has nothing to do with a line on the imaginary map in your mind.

edit - My first wife was a Barnsley lass, I avoid the place now :)
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Spot on Stevie.
I have been very lucky in my life in that I have lived in some very nice places
East Lothian
Kent
Surrey
Suffolk
Wilts
Ayrshire.

There are many places in the UK that I would chose not to live, but probably more where I would.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Absolutely spot on. And I get that sort of guff you talk of from family and friends in Scotland to this day. I haven't smacked anyone but I've given a few folk a piece of my mind. It's one of the reasons I would find it difficult to move back to Scotland having lived in south of England for 30yrs. The same ignorant attitude that many Scots seem to have of the English seems to infect the attitude of northern-English towards those living in the SE of England. All borne out of ignorance and prejudice based upon media representations of a minority.
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I thought you hailed from the affluent suburb of Newton Mearns?

I would have expected the middle classes to behave better and have a better education to slump to such lows!
 
Snelly said:
I don't know about a North South divide really. I am not sure anyone cares any more.

I grew up in Yorkshire, went to school in Manchester then moved south chasing various women and now reside in Sussex so am well placed to discuss the relative merits of England's regions.

The south is great with loads of lovely places to live. The weather, food, beer, wine, countryside, beaches and income levels are generally much better. Plus, being surrounded by southerners, it means I am logically and quite clearly, the hardest bloke in our village.

As for the north? It is grim. I don't miss it one bit and will never live there again. Whenever family or friends from Sheffield come to stay with us, they always say how nice it is and how fantastic it would be to live where we do. Unfortunately they can't because they are too poor and have bad table manners so would not really fit in. We have to send them back to the provinces where they soon settle again, surrounded by the comfort of suet based food and safe in the knowledge that it could be much worse..........they could live in Leeds.
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Second vote for post of the year - by eck that was funny Dave:clap::clap::clap::sbox::sbox::sbox::cheers::cheers:
 
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