Is Racism Getting worse in the UK

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Back in 2014 (long before brexit was even a twinkle in Cameron’s eyes) me and my now brother in law went to see England vs Denmark at Wembley

Some drunk moron in front had a go at a nice Spanish gentleman next to me... (who had been talking to his mate in Spanish) “what languish is that? We talk English here, who you supporting?!” England was his reply .. “good don’t let me hear that rubbish again”

Long before London became a walking knife centre so I did tell him to pipe down or he could spend the rest of the match watching through one eye. Mod edit
 
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The moron comment seems apt, and good on you for demonstrating we are not all like that.
Your last comment is where it can become complex. Wouldn't they have been the same race? (Various definitions and interpretations exist)
 
IainP said:
The moron comment seems apt, and good on you for demonstrating we are not all like that.
Your last comment is where it can become complex. Wouldn't they have been the same race? (Various definitions and interpretations exist)
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Xenophobic then? Lol
 
I think racism towards black people is considerably less than it was in the past (50/40/30 years ago. There does seem to be a degree of racial hatred between people of ethnic origins, some of them seem to detest each other. Eastern Europeans are very intolerant of non white people, I dread to think what it must be like for these people to live in countries like Hungary, Poland etc, I guess they dont though as they are not welcome there.

I read a lot here of Nigel Farage being an arch racist but I have to say I never get that opinion when I hear him talk, it seems that many equivicalise waning to control immigration with out and out racism. And I do remember his picture with the long row of illegal immigrants coming to Europe but I think the point was that we couldn't allow an unlimited amount of people to do this, not that they should be exterminated.

Racism exists to some degree in Europe, China, Asia and everywhere, it would be naive to think it could be eliminated but from what I can see its improveing here.
 
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We are far more tolerant and understanding than many countries in the free world, however this should not allow us to be complacent due to the rise of both the far right and left organisations popping up.

I was surprised this weekend by the lack of action by stewards at a match I was at this Saturday. When I mentioned it to the local bobby outside later, he just shrugged and said it would course to much trouble in certain sections if action was taken. Unbelievable really. A large minority of football "fans" seem to leave their brains and decent vocabulary at home.
 
IanM said:
Daft, although I conceed there must be some folk at the margins who saw that as a opening.... equally, the numbers of idiots who proclaim the UK being self governing is racist, or our flag is racist or Poppies are racist are doing a great job of distracting the focus from the terminally stupid who distcrimate based on colour, religion or country of origin.

I am working somewhere currently who have just launched a new management development programme. But to get on it you have to demonstrate which minority you are from. Nice bit of tokenism, and another box ticked. Will fix nothing.

The law to punish offenders exists, just needs properly enforcing and some consitency of approach.

Plenty of CCTV at footy grounds, stick a few gobbies in the nick for a few months, will soon put them off.
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Completely agree with the bold part, I hate that. Black managers in football is one that people always bring up, why are there not enough, etc. Maybe they're just no good? People advocate making it compulsory to interview one person of colour for each role that comes up, but how would someone feel being given an interview when they know they are underqualified and have only been chosen because they tick a box, as you put it? Alternatively, a person of colour who is qualified may still be wondering if they've only been called upon to tick that box rather than on merit. I think it's all wrong to go down that route.
 
SocketRocket said:
I think racism towards black people is considerably less than it was in the past (50/40/30 years ago. There does seem to be a degree of racial hatred between people of ethnic origins, some of them seem to detest each other. Eastern Europeans are very intolerant of non white people, I dread to think what it must be like for these people to live in countries like Hungary, Poland etc, I guess they dont though as they are not welcome there.
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I'm in, what I'm told is, the most tolerant city in Poland and we're slowly seeing more and more diversity, nothing like the levels we used to see in SE London. My friend, Cuban but visually he's white, was on the receiving end while waiting on the platform at the main train station but apparently the police were great and even hinted at the correct responses he should give for maximum response, and I've heard stories of people hearing comments in Zabka but not amounting to anything.

I've not experienced anything, but most people don't realise I'm not Polish till I open my mouth.
 
A few years ago there was a superb Scottish public service advert about refugees/immigrants in Scotland.

It showed an immigrant walking around Glasgow and the narrator was saying how he was being treated, things like

'If I keep my head down and work hard and I think I will be welcomed into this community'
'The locals are a bit wary of me but seem quite friendly'
' There is certainly lots of opportunity here for me to do well'

The film then turned to the narrator who explained that the immigrant was a Syrian refugee but the words he spoke came from a letter home from a young Scots immigrant to Canada in the 19th century
 
I think people will always pick on others that are different or do not fit into their perceived 'group'. Whatever that group or different is, in this context you are looking or label it racism.

You see this from children, to youths, to adults to OAPs. The picking on as you are different is always there and always will be.
 
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I think people will always pick on others that are different or do not fit into their perceived 'group'. Whatever that group or different is, in this context you are looking or label it racism.

You see this from children, to youths, to adults to OAPs. The picking on as you are different is always there and always will be.
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If that is true it is wrong and should not be tolerated or accepted.
 
Personally my feeling is that overt racism is far less widespread than it was when I was young and people are generally less racist than they used to be . However recently the smaller minority of people who are racist do seem to be emboldened to express themselves more volubly and possibly more aggressively than in recent years.

On the totally non racial subject of Scottish university fees the reason why they are free to other places in the EU but not the rUK it is becuase the EU rules say so and not deliberately anti English pro EU policy by the Scottish Government, who would love to raise a bit more money if they could from EU students.
 
Backache said:
Personally my feeling is that overt racism is far less widespread than it was when I was young and people are generally less racist than they used to be . However recently the smaller minority of people who are racist do seem to be emboldened to express themselves more volubly and possibly more aggressively than in recent years.

On the totally non racial subject of Scottish university fees the reason why they are free to other places in the EU but not the rUK it is becuase the EU rules say so and not deliberately anti English pro EU policy by the Scottish Government, who would love to raise a bit more money if they could from EU students.
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From a family connection point of view I can, unfortunately, confirm that racism is still fairly common in the UK.

Maybe slightly more subtle than in earlier times but still out there.
 
I have found most of the East European subbies we employ to be extremely racist, especially against people of the Muslim faith, personally I don’t think it’s getting worse but as was posted earlier “how would I know?”

I don’t think the race relation “industry” (poor choice or descriptor I know!) helps itself with things like this...

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news...-chocolate-ducklings-after-criticism-11688611



Digital Blackface ffs!
 
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