Sad point but true 😢. I was trying to be positive but I'm deflated now. Let's hope the new generations can make that step that others could not.
is it time for a United Ireland
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Jacko_G
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That is basically how it's run anyway London gets everything the rest of the country gets scraps.
Fade and Die
Medal Winner
Jacko_G
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Bitter? Good God no.
Realistic - 100%
Rugby. Egg chasing is not really anything I would ever get upset or worried about, bit like soccer really, won't lose any sleep over either.
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Sinn Fein trying to form a Gov.... maybe this isn't that far off after all
Kellfire
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Brexit certainly makes it much more palatable now that even more of the population of NI hates the British government but no one ever seems to ask I’d Dublin even really wants Northern Ireland.
NI has a large Budget Deficit, i suspect Ireland would have to pay that back if it where to take "Back " NI??
Scoobiesnax
Assistant Pro
We'll see how strong the Unionist vote now is in Northern Ireland. If Sinn Fein were to form a government in the Republic, I think the Unionist vote in N.I. would become extremely polarised; more so than what it is now! It may also become more united as Unionism is very fractured with a number of parties. Interesting times ahead. Plus side for Sinn Fein - they won't need the IRA when they are in government as they'll have the Irish Army at their disposal 
Grant85
Head Pro
I don't see a route to a united Ireland at the moment.
Sinn Fein doing well might bring it onto the agenda, but the hurdles in Belfast and London will not be jumped easily.
Perhaps in decades to come, the numbers might be such that there is a clearer majority of Irish nationalists in the North and it might be that sufficient numbers who lived through the troubles have died. But given the text in the Belfast agreement, the way the Stormont government is formed (with the 2 largest parties) and the electoral arithmetic in NI, it has no chance of getting seriously onto the agenda.
Sinn Fein doing well might bring it onto the agenda, but the hurdles in Belfast and London will not be jumped easily.
Perhaps in decades to come, the numbers might be such that there is a clearer majority of Irish nationalists in the North and it might be that sufficient numbers who lived through the troubles have died. But given the text in the Belfast agreement, the way the Stormont government is formed (with the 2 largest parties) and the electoral arithmetic in NI, it has no chance of getting seriously onto the agenda.
but you could end up with Sinn Fein in power both sides of the border, what happens then?
Jacko_G
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Prepare for war?
Ye Olde Boomer
Well-known member
As a lapsed Catholic, I cannot imagine religious considerations even entering the discussion as to whether a united Ireland is a good idea or not.
Whether it's a good idea or not, and I sure as hell wouldn't know, I'm sure the intent won't be to create a new theocracy.
I would hope that economic and cultural considerations would decide the issue, with the overall standard of living and qualty of life for all concerned being the primary issue.
Whether it's a good idea or not, and I sure as hell wouldn't know, I'm sure the intent won't be to create a new theocracy.
I would hope that economic and cultural considerations would decide the issue, with the overall standard of living and qualty of life for all concerned being the primary issue.
2blue
Journeyman Pro
Anyone who has witnessed NI during the Marching-season will know how these 'considerations' will go. I fear that, sadly, despite the concerted efforts in the past at gaining peace, the last few years have been leading us into a conflict on our doorstep, yet again.
KenL
Tour Rookie
As big as Scotland's?
I imagine that if the UK agreed to allow NI to become part of Eire there could be a lot of trouble.
2blue
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Ye Gods... the silence is deafening..... dib ,dib, dob dob.... come out come out where ever you are!!
Scoobiesnax
Assistant Pro
Being a Ballymena man now living in not so sunny Essex for the last 17 years; I can't really say I know the thoughts of many people back in NI with regards a United Ireland. However, I would guess that there will be many p*ssed off people with very entrenched views that may take arms up again if the Island was to be united. It's a very fine balance, that I think could be tipped either way very easily.
When you look at how many times Stormont has been suspended since the Good Friday Agreement was signed, and why, I'm inclined to think that a United Ireland is a million miles away.
Would NI going it alone, as an independent state, be that half way house that goes some way to satisfying both sides? The republicans would no longer be under Brit rule, and the Unionists, although no longer in the Union, wouldn't be under rule from Dublin. Would being part of the Commonwealth be enough for the Unionists?
Would NI going it alone, as an independent state, be that half way house that goes some way to satisfying both sides? The republicans would no longer be under Brit rule, and the Unionists, although no longer in the Union, wouldn't be under rule from Dublin. Would being part of the Commonwealth be enough for the Unionists?
Kellfire
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Ballymena hi!
Kellfire
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No chance!
