Is it better than a hole in one?

HawkeyeMS said:
I'm not saying they aren't just that the ones that go in involve luck and that holing out for a HIO is no better than holing out for ann eagle on a par 4 or 5
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The level of skill between holing a 2nd shot or 3rd shot is the same as holing the first shot

There is just nothjng that beats completing the hole is one single shot - the feeling is better , the kudos but getting it in the hole from anywhere requires skill just don't think it's right to dismiss good shots and put the result down to luck
 
guest100718 said:
Its still a hole in one......
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And as such is a much rarer beast - one worthy of the title, much like a 2 on a Par 5.
The principle is the same - it has the same effect on the scorecard .

What would give you more satisfaction - a HIO on a 125 yard par 3 or holing out for a 2 from 200 yards on a long par 4...?
 
Imurg said:
And as such is a much rarer beast - one worthy of the title, much like a 2 on a Par 5.
The principle is the same - it has the same effect on the scorecard .

What would give you more satisfaction - a HIO on a 125 yard par 3 or holing out for a 2 from 200 yards on a long par 4...?
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the ace
 
Liverpoolphil said:
The level of skill between holing a 2nd shot or 3rd shot is the same as holing the first shot

There is just nothjng that beats completing the hole is one single shot - the feeling is better , the kudos but getting it in the hole from anywhere requires skill just don't think it's right to dismiss good shots and put the result down to luck
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I'm not and never have dismissed the good shots. I just think the difference between them going in and not is luck.
 
Imurg said:
Where does the par 5 come into it?
125 yard par 3 in 1 and 450 yard par 4 in 2
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You mentioned a par 5 as well. Anyway Aces are great as are hole outs from the fairway and I am lucky to have done both several times. I hope you have too.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
The level of skill between holing a 2nd shot or 3rd shot is the same as holing the first shot

There is just nothjng that beats completing the hole is one single shot - the feeling is better , the kudos but getting it in the hole from anywhere requires skill just don't think it's right to dismiss good shots and put the result down to luck
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Getting it with 8 or ten feet might be a result of skill, but getting it in the hole is all luck!
 
Obviously you can have a lucky hole in one, as has been stated, but a well struck shot that goes in the desired target is not luck just the perfect shot. Hence why the odds are so high as it is very difficult to do, so to dismiss it when it is achieved as luck is insulting to the person who has hit it.
 
There's no such thing as a perfect shot. It's known that a robot can't hit precisely the same shot twice, chance always has to be a factor. How you make chance smaller (and the intended outcome larger) is a skill but chance never goes away.

If you keep minimising chance to near zero, quantum physics would kick in and would mean you can't ever predict the outcome of the intended shot.

Worse still, if you were a golfer called Schrodinger, you might never know if the ball was in the hole. So in in theory, every shot ever played in golf is a hole in one until its observed that it isn't.
 
Jimaroid said:
There's no such thing as a perfect shot. It's known that a robot can't hit precisely the same shot twice, chance always has to be a factor. How you make chance smaller (and the intended outcome larger) is a skill but chance never goes away.

If you keep minimising chance to near zero, quantum physics would kick in and would mean you can't ever predict the outcome of the intended shot.

Worse still, if you were a golfer called Schrodinger, you might never know if the ball was in the hole. So in in theory, every shot ever played in golf is a hole in one until its observed that it isn't.
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Hi Steven Hawkins when did you take up golf?
 
I have a hole in one in a comp!

But a well crafted and thought out birdie, like the one I got last year on our 14th (tough par 4) means more to me than a thinned 9 iron that hit the flag and went in!
 
The Euro tour have plenty of cars on offer for a hole in one on a certain hole or specific day etc I guess the value will be in the region of 10's of thousands but I doubt it often gets to 6 figure value

The May euro tour event will have a million dollar villa for an eagle on the par 4 17th

Someone seems to think it'll be a tad harder to get the eagle



Without ever having had a HIO or eagle I think I'd be delighted with either though ;)
 
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