slowhand
Head Pro
But won't the launch angle differ for the same player between a draw and a fade? if the face is closed for the draw, and open for the fade, the launch angle for the draw will be lower
Is hitting a draw with a driver all it's cracked up to be?
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But won't the launch angle differ for the same player between a draw and a fade? if the face is closed for the draw, and open for the fade, the launch angle for the draw will be lower
Alex1975
Tour Winner
Very likely. Murph is talking in a general way on numbers to make a another point. Very likely your fade and draw do not launch and spin at the same rate as one another.
Jimbop90
Assistant Pro
The general rule is that fade / slice is shorter than draw because the way MOST amateurs create a fade / slice means they are imparting more backspin on the ball than if they had hit a draw (which is usually the same swing path with clubface pointing further left for a right-handed golfer) - if you 'scientifically' created a fade shot and a draw show with the same launch, back spin, and side spin, they would go the same distance.
Because if I were drawing the ball I wouldn't be slicing it!
Alex1975
Tour Winner
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I'm sure a test was done a few years ago using a machine in exact same conditions, ball etc hitting draws and fades and the results were virtually identical, ie hit correctly one does not have an advantage over the other.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
Draws do look pretty but when it gets snobby about hitting fades I'm out.
ruff-driver
Journeyman Pro
I wish i could hit a fade to order, only 2 holes at ours that suit my draw
sick of seeing the left side of the course
sick of seeing the left side of the course
hovis
Tour Winner
You can talk to a fade. A hook won't listen!!!!
I wanted a draw for ages. Got rid and went back to my baby fade. Much more manageable
I wanted a draw for ages. Got rid and went back to my baby fade. Much more manageable
Lump
Tour Winner
Happy to hit both. Prefer the draw, its just easier to adjust for. If I'm trying to fade the ball, I have to see BIG fades. I don't like holding a ball into a wind with shape, would just rather use the wind to assist the shape.
IMO the draw is a result of a better strike, you can fade the ball hitting nearly anywhere on the face, but a draw is out the middle of the club.
IMO the draw is a result of a better strike, you can fade the ball hitting nearly anywhere on the face, but a draw is out the middle of the club.
Ethan
Money List Winner
If you hit the ball with a closed face you take a small amount of loft off, a fade adds a bit. Whether that adds distance or not depends on which is closer to your optimum flight. As said before a pro draw is lovely, but many of us who draw the ball also sometimes snap one into the trees. I would happily take a pro fade where the ball flies straight to its apex then feathers down slightly to the tight.
palindromicbob
Tour Winner
Jack Nicklaus...
Duckster
Tour Rookie
Doesn't a fade occur due to the club having an open face and a swing path coming out to in? Hence the ball gets more back spin and a higher ball flight which is the reason it goes less distance than a draw which has a lower ball flight? Or so I've been led to believe.
Ethan
Money List Winner
That isn't the way the average player hits draws/hooks or fades/slides though. They turn the head over or hold it open and change loft too. The same players hit left to right shots higher and with more spin than right to left shots. You rarely see a hooky shot stall in the air into the wind and go nowhere. See it all the time with cut shots.
ruff-driver
Journeyman Pro
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
Yeah, but my point was, loads of people seem to think a draw is automatically longer. It's not. Sadly, it seems that way, because most people's idea of a fade isn't a push fade, but a weak slappy ballooned affair which goes nowhere.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
I like to hit a high draw, or a low fade.
Sometimes neither.
Sometimes neither.
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
I've never been able to hit a draw (intentionally) with a driver. Sure it would be nice for a few holes round my place, but I get by ok without it.
It's only been the last year or so that I've learnt to hit a draw with an iron, but I still won't use it unless there's something to go around.
A couple of comments that apply to so many things in life:
1. The grass is always greener etc
2. Be careful what you wish for
It's only been the last year or so that I've learnt to hit a draw with an iron, but I still won't use it unless there's something to go around.
A couple of comments that apply to so many things in life:
1. The grass is always greener etc
2. Be careful what you wish for
Jimaroid
Journeyman Pro
Don't take this personally, there's quite a lot of wrong information in that. In particular, "side-spin" doesn't exist and is a golf physics myth.
This is a useful explanation of ball flight (PDF) TrackMan's 10 Fundamentals - My TrackMan
