Khamelion
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You may have been the player(s) that carried the team to glory and have been treated as sporting gods.
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You may have been the player(s) that carried the team to glory and have been treated as sporting gods.
MadAdey
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To me the criteria should be this. Where you are born, where either of your parents are born, or if you have citizenship to that country. I say for instance you where born in Africa but came to live in England and have british citizenship then you should be entitled to play for England, as that is the nation you are a citizen of. BUt if you do not want citizenship of that country then you should not be allowed to represent it.
i think thats hats rather ridiculous tbh, I get it if people have chosen to work abroad in a standard career abroad. But if a British couple are in the army and have their child in a different country, only to return to Britain at the end if their tour are you seriously telling me that person wouldn't be British? Be that, English, Irish, welsh or Scottish?
Foxholer
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Yeah. I think we got that message the first few times!
I believe that, as now, there should be a choice. With a stand-down period and/or residence (or other) qualification period/criteria to prevent Country-hopping just to get in the National team. That's no different to the current situation. Whether the current criteria is appropriate, for all sports, is a different question!
Nothing to do with the fact that All Blacks would, potentially, be decimated - haven't checked, but there's probable players from 5 different Countries in the team - or that Lydia Ko, who was raised and learned all her Golf in NZ and plays individually as a Kiwi, would play for Korea!
What about Coaches etc?!
Khamelion
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That's exactly what I'm saying, regardless of parental nationality, if you were born in Finland, then at a national level you would be only entitled to play for Finland.
I just find it ridiculous that a person born in one country and play a sport at a national level for another country just because their parents are a different nationality.
So you're born in Andorra, but your parents are, mother German, Father Spanish and since you were 4 you've lived in England, you get to play at a national level for any of the 4 countries, a complete nonsense.
I have no problem with that scenario at all. I think players should decide allegiance at first opportunity be that u17 or 21's. Don't believe in swapping like some have, or being able to just due to residence. But I would argue that there are plenty of people that weren't born in England that have been here since a young age that consider themselves English. I think you should be able to represent the country you consider to be your home.
januzi for example, I wouldn't want him playing for England as he only came he when in teens and is choosing for all the wrong reasons.
stevie_r
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Country of birth or whatever country your parents were born in.
MadAdey
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Little teaser here for you then.
You are born in Germany to English parents in a British military hospital. Only ever had a British passport and a British birth certificate. You only lived in Germany for only 3 years. So what country should they be entitled to play for?
You are born in Germany to English parents in a British military hospital. Only ever had a British passport and a British birth certificate. You only lived in Germany for only 3 years. So what country should they be entitled to play for?
USER1999
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Worse yet, what if you were born in the British embassy in Germany!
Khamelion
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Having never been in the forces I don't know if an army base on foreign soil is classed as the sovereign territory of the army in situ. If it is classed as sovereign territory then a person born there would be classed as belonging to whatever nation the army base is.
Same applies to being born in an embassy on foreign soil, regardless of where the embassy is, if you are born in one then your nationality is that of the embassy.
MadAdey
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Exactly, it is not as clear cut as what country where you born in.
Imurg
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stevie_r
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Was the Singapore one actually issued by the British Consulate? My daughter's BC was issued by the British Consulate in Dusseldorf and is therefore a British BC.
MadAdey
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That is what happened to my brother, hence being born in Germany but having a BRitish BC and passport
cookelad
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Me too, One British and one that I'll never be able to read!
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
What happens if you're born at Sea in International Waters....
Can you play for anyone..?
Can you play for anyone..?
Khamelion
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I was wondering when this one would come up, I dunno, you could just be a floater...........
I would say in this exceptional circumstance then you parents nationality would be taken into consideration, or as has been mentioned above, your nationality would be that of which ever embassy/consulate your birth certificate is issued.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
MadAdey
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But you can't go making exceptions for some and not others, that is why it is like it is in football. All it would take is a player to contest it with the high court and you know he would win, so FIFA just take the easy option and allows players to do what they do now.
This is where the problem begins with trying to work out who you can play for. If a person has citizenship to a country and a passport issued by that country then surely he must be allowed to play for them, irrespective of where he was born. It should not be able to go back to Grandparents as that could mean you have a player that could basically take entitlement to play for 8 different countries. At least only going back to parents it entitles him to a maximum of 4.
But I do agree with one thing though............. singing Danny Boy while drinking a pint of Guinness should not entitle you to play for Ireland........
fundy
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and yet another thread started where the OP asks for peoples views then ignores them and repeats his own view over and over again as if it is fact, the recent trend towards this really is a massive negative for this forum
OP - why create a poll and ask others thoughts when you clearly refuse to listen to them at all, did you just need an argument this afternoon?
OP - why create a poll and ask others thoughts when you clearly refuse to listen to them at all, did you just need an argument this afternoon?
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