In or Out?

[Deleted member 15344]

No I wouldn't be ignoring a rule. That would be our interpretation of the rule and what we believe was the correct way to proceed. ??‍ They're not going to put white stakes every 6 inches along the boundary line, so I look at that and see the boundary line is the clear line between the mown grass and the crap. Every white stake is on that mown-in line so that's the line. Sorry if you disagree but that's what I believe.

To point at Bob's post from earlier again - if you think it's right that ball B is out of bounds here then that's stupid in my opinion. It goes against common sense, logic, fairness, and it just plainly isn't out of bounds. As @phillarrow said the rule doesn't say 'straight perpendicular lines' between posts, so it's for our interpretation. Once again - sorry if you disagree but that's what I believe is correct here.

By the rules of the sport your interpretation would be wrong

It’s as simple as that , you can look for logic , fairness or common sense in the rule book if you want but the rule for OOB is clear as day

And in the picture that Bob put up ball B is OOB - it’s as simple as that

Unless there is a clear white line or the card details the boundary then the boundary is a line directly from one white post to the next - it’s that simple

 

[Orikoru]

By the rules of the sport your interpretation would be wrong

It’s as simple as that , you can look for logic , fairness or common sense in the rule book if you want but the rule for OOB is clear as day

And in the picture that Bob put up ball B is OOB - it’s as simple as that

Unless there is a clear white line or the card details the boundary then the boundary is a line directly from one white post to the next - it’s that simple

I don't believe it is and would never rule it that way in a million years.

 

[SteveW86]

This thread just keeps on giving

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I don't believe it is and would never rule it that way in a million years.

Well first off your belief is wrong - can’t be any more blunt than that

And I would expect you would follow the rules of golf to the letter when playing - so you must rule it OOB ,



This picture should help if your struggling with the written word examples

 

[Jimaroid]

Sneak preview of the next edition of the rule book.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

I often wonder why so many people don’t understand things like nearest point of relief, or that you can’t take a drop from a burrowing animal hole if you have to crawl under a bush to get to your ball.

Then I read discussions like this and it all makes sense.

 

[Swango1980]

I don't believe it is and would never rule it that way in a million years.

So, let us say a referee was with you when you were in that situation, the referee being ColinL. He has already explained it is out of bounds, like many others. Are you seriously saying you would argue with him that it is not out of bounds, and his assessment of the rule is stupid?

Maybe golf is getting a lot more like football these days.

 

[SteveW86]

I bet the OP wishes he hadnt bothered asking now

 

[Jimaroid]

I bet the OP wishes he hadnt bothered asking now

Not sure. I'm just hoping @i*windows is holding off posting a photo of the local rules / scorecard for reasons of comic timing.

 

[Foxholer]

No I wouldn't be ignoring a rule. That would be our interpretation of the rule and what we believe was the correct way to proceed. ??‍ They're not going to put white stakes every 6 inches along the boundary line, so I look at that and see the boundary line is the clear line between the mown grass and the crap. Every white stake is on that mown-in line so that's the line. Sorry if you disagree but that's what I believe.

To point at Bob's post from earlier again - if you think it's right that ball B is out of bounds here then that's stupid in my opinion. It goes against common sense, logic, fairness, and it just plainly isn't out of bounds. As @phillarrow said the rule doesn't say 'straight perpendicular lines' between posts, so it's for our interpretation. Once again - sorry if you disagree but that's what I believe is correct here.

Your 'interpretation' is simply wrong!

 

[phillarrow]

Not sure. I'm just hoping @i*windows is holding off posting a photo of the local rules / scorecard for reasons of comic timing.

Maybe he hadn't read it until he started all this and now he's too embarrassed to admit that it was all there in black and white!

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I now understand how some people win competitions. They use “common sense” rather than the rules!

 

[fundy]

I now understand how some people win competitions. They use “common sense” rather than the rules!

One of the first comps i played at previous club, par 3 one of the guys in the group hit it over the flag and into the ditch behind the green. Grabbed his ball and went to drop it hole side of the ditch, clearly several yards closer to the hole. I politely pointed out it was nearer the hole and he couldnt drop it there. The response was "well i cant drop it further away Ill be in the hedge" to which his partner piped up "we always drop like this, its fine". Yep they played together in every undrawn comp..............

 

[PNWokingham]

what a fun read!

 

[greenone]

Its OoB, a local course has a similar setup with an incourse oob. As it was down the down the middle of trees separating two fairways it was a pain to maintain the line so in they ended up digging a ditch to stop the arguments.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

One of the first comps i played at previous club, par 3 one of the guys in the group hit it over the flag and into the ditch behind the green. Grabbed his ball and went to drop it hole side of the ditch, clearly several yards closer to the hole. I politely pointed out it was nearer the hole and he couldnt drop it there. The response was "well i cant drop it further away Ill be in the hedge" to which his partner piped up "we always drop like this, its fine". Yep they played together in every undrawn comp..............

Worrying isn’t it !

 

[Orikoru]

Well first off your belief is wrong - can’t be any more blunt than that

And I would expect you would follow the rules of golf to the letter when playing - so you must rule it OOB ,

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This picture should help if your struggling with the written word examples

The picture shows a straight line boundary so is irrelevant in my view. i.e. take the middle of three white stakes out and it doesn't alter it at all. In the real life example there's a question of what the boundary is, in this image there is no question.

 

[Orikoru]

I now understand how some people win competitions. They use “common sense” rather than the rules!

Don't you think it's a real shame that they're apparently deemed mutually exclusive?

 

[fundy]

caught some whoppers here @Orikoru a couple of days early though

 

[greenone]

The picture shows a straight line boundary so is irrelevant in my view. i.e. take the middle of three white stakes out and it doesn't alter it at all. In the real life example there's a question of what the boundary is, in this image there is no question.

In the absence of markings the posts dictate the line. A difference in grass length is not a marking, who knows, they could have sent the apprentice out to cut the rough and they got a bit over enthusiastic.