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Played in monthly medal today and conditions were a joke course shouldn't have been open it was frozen solid and totally unplayable yet instead it was played as a qualifier..

Played with a young lad off 6 and another fella off 12. The young lad hit the ball nicely and shot a nett 87, the fella off 12 a nett 86 and I barely scrapped a nett 80! Yet I actually hit the ball really well and never missed a fairway. Summed up on our 5th hit a really good tee shot had about 160 to go, I hit an 8 iron to land it short and run it up as ground was so hard, hit it well it landed a good 15yards short, bounced about that same height in the air and bounded on and on until it went OOB 25 yards through the back of the green.. The game continued in this fashion all way round.

Our index 1 hole the 13th a long tough par 4, played again a really good drive as did the young fella, he was playing his approach first from about 180, he played a shot that landed about 30yards short but again it bounced big and bounded on 20yards through the green OOB.

Then we had the 14th no choice but to fly it all the way as its a par 3 directly over water all the way, even hitting a SW landing it front edge 40feet short all 3 of us bounced up and a good 20yards through again but the return has to be pitched up back over a bank so not a chance of holding it either. With 3 well played tee shots the best score on the hole ended up being a 5!

We couldn't fly at greens, we couldn't land the ball short there was simply no way of getting a ball to stay in the green even chip and runs would fly on through..

One fella off 9 who plays in our B team shot a 108 nett 99! When we got back in all the guy in shop could say we'll why not play a qualifier it's same for everyone.

So 0.1 back it is then...
 

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Played in monthly medal today and conditions were a joke course shouldn't have been open it was frozen solid and totally unplayable yet instead it was played as a qualifier..

Played with a young lad off 6 and another fella off 12. The young lad hit the ball nicely and shot a nett 87, the fella off 12 a nett 86 and I barely scrapped a nett 80! Yet I actually hit the ball really well and never missed a fairway. Summed up on our 5th hit a really good tee shot had about 160 to go, I hit an 8 iron to land it short and run it up as ground was so hard, hit it well it landed a good 15yards short, bounced about that same height in the air and bounded on and on until it went OOB 25 yards through the back of the green.. The game continued in this fashion all way round.

Our index 1 hole the 13th a long tough par 4, played again a really good drive as did the young fella, he was playing his approach first from about 180, he played a shot that landed about 30yards short but again it bounced big and bounded on 20yards through the green OOB.

Then we had the 14th no choice but to fly it all the way as its a par 3 directly over water all the way, even hitting a SW landing it front edge 40feet short all 3 of us bounced up and a good 20yards through again but the return has to be pitched up back over a bank so not a chance of holding it either. With 3 well played tee shots the best score on the hole ended up being a 5!

We couldn't fly at greens, we couldn't land the ball short there was simply no way of getting a ball to stay in the green even chip and runs would fly on through..

One fella off 9 who plays in our B team shot a 108 nett 99! When we got back in all the guy in shop could say we'll why not play a qualifier it's same for everyone.

So 0.1 back it is then...
Sounds like a right laugh! :LOL:
 

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Sounds like a right laugh! :LOL:
After the first 5 holes. We literally did just laugh when it happened there was no point getting anymore wound up over it.

Best one was when one of the guys topped their approach shot on 12th hole it was bad but bounded about 140 yards along the fairway and finished 10 feet from the hole on the front fringe where he then 4 putted from...
 

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Played in monthly medal today and conditions were a joke course shouldn't have been open it was frozen solid and totally unplayable yet instead it was played as a qualifier..

Played with a young lad off 6 and another fella off 12. The young lad hit the ball nicely and shot a nett 87, the fella off 12 a nett 86 and I barely scrapped a nett 80! Yet I actually hit the ball really well and never missed a fairway. Summed up on our 5th hit a really good tee shot had about 160 to go, I hit an 8 iron to land it short and run it up as ground was so hard, hit it well it landed a good 15yards short, bounced about that same height in the air and bounded on and on until it went OOB 25 yards through the back of the green.. The game continued in this fashion all way round.

Our index 1 hole the 13th a long tough par 4, played again a really good drive as did the young fella, he was playing his approach first from about 180, he played a shot that landed about 30yards short but again it bounced big and bounded on 20yards through the green OOB.

Then we had the 14th no choice but to fly it all the way as its a par 3 directly over water all the way, even hitting a SW landing it front edge 40feet short all 3 of us bounced up and a good 20yards through again but the return has to be pitched up back over a bank so not a chance of holding it either. With 3 well played tee shots the best score on the hole ended up being a 5!

We couldn't fly at greens, we couldn't land the ball short there was simply no way of getting a ball to stay in the green even chip and runs would fly on through..

One fella off 9 who plays in our B team shot a 108 nett 99! When we got back in all the guy in shop could say we'll why not play a qualifier it's same for everyone.

So 0.1 back it is then...

If it was that bad and nobody scored anything then hopefully it'll be reductions only.
 

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If it was that bad and nobody scored anything then hopefully it'll be reductions only.
Waiting to see the scores tomorrow hoping that's exactly what it is, all depends on the later starters I guess as anyone that went out about 1030-11am by time they got to back 9 I'm assuming would be more playable. But when I let the club there had been roughly a dozen NRs and so many scores in the nett 80s and 90s..
 

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Waiting to see the scores tomorrow hoping that's exactly what it is, all depends on the later starters I guess as anyone that went out about 1030-11am by time they got to back 9 I'm assuming would be more playable. But when I let the club there had been roughly a dozen NRs and so many scores in the nett 80s and 90s..

Don't take this the wrong way but I never understand when people say "course should never of been open". I mean I'm sure your right but, couldn't you of realised that yourself and just not bothered to play.
 

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Don't take this the wrong way but I never understand when people say "course should never of been open". I mean I'm sure your right but, couldn't you of realised that yourself and just not bothered to play.
Was thinking same thing.

Gentlemen's agreement between pp's and back in the warm for a nice breakfast 👍
 

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Don't take this the wrong way but I never understand when people say "course should never of been open". I mean I'm sure your right but, couldn't you of realised that yourself and just not bothered to play.
You're right I could make that decision myself but the other 2 wanted to play and once we were out not much point coming in. People also say these things as funny enough that's their opinion should we not have one.
 

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was going to go for a game this morning as the snow had gone yesterday and the temp was right up last night.

looked at the webcam, practice green is almost under water as it rained all night with the ground still slightly frozen:(
 

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You're right I could make that decision myself but the other 2 wanted to play and once we were out not much point coming in. People also say these things as funny enough that's their opinion should we not have one.

Not quite sure where you got from my post that I'd suggested you shouldn't have an opinion. In fact it was quite the opposite. Rather than blaming your course for not closing, perhaps you could of thought for yourself and decided not to play.
 

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Don't take this the wrong way but I never understand when people say "course should never of been open". I mean I'm sure your right but, couldn't you of realised that yourself and just not bothered to play.
Not quite sure where you got from my post that I'd suggested you shouldn't have an opinion. In fact it was quite the opposite. Rather than blaming your course for not closing, perhaps you could of thought for yourself and decided not to play.

Well we always want to play don't we? I think to a certain extent you don't know how bad or frozen the greens will be until you're out there hitting at them. And if the course is open you'd assume they're alright wouldn't you? I would assume someone from the club had been out and deemed them playable in that case.
 
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Well we always want to play don't we? I think to a certain extent you don't how bad or frozen the greens will be until you're out there hitting at them. And if the course is open you'd assume they're alright wouldn't you? I would assume someone from the club had been out and deemed them playable in that case.
I think as you say we've all been out on a course when we know deep down it shouldn't be open. I take your point though and my take is, take advice from the head greenkeeper who should be on the course every day and so will know first hand if it's playable or not. It's not quite so clear cut (although probably should be) with muni courses where they seem to want to stay open at all costs. I played Blue Mountain near me with the local pub golf society between Christmas and new year and the water on the fairways was almost up to the shoes. It was muddy, with nowhere to take standing water relief and was a mess. No way it should have been open (long before any discussions about building on there) but it was a local golf cash cow and Crown Golf kept milking it without too much regard to the playing pleasure of the paying visitors
 

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Played in monthly medal today and conditions were a joke course shouldn't have been open it was frozen solid and totally unplayable yet instead it was played as a qualifier..

Played with a young lad off 6 and another fella off 12. The young lad hit the ball nicely and shot a nett 87, the fella off 12 a nett 86 and I barely scrapped a nett 80! Yet I actually hit the ball really well and never missed a fairway. Summed up on our 5th hit a really good tee shot had about 160 to go, I hit an 8 iron to land it short and run it up as ground was so hard, hit it well it landed a good 15yards short, bounced about that same height in the air and bounded on and on until it went OOB 25 yards through the back of the green.. The game continued in this fashion all way round.

Our index 1 hole the 13th a long tough par 4, played again a really good drive as did the young fella, he was playing his approach first from about 180, he played a shot that landed about 30yards short but again it bounced big and bounded on 20yards through the green OOB.

Then we had the 14th no choice but to fly it all the way as its a par 3 directly over water all the way, even hitting a SW landing it front edge 40feet short all 3 of us bounced up and a good 20yards through again but the return has to be pitched up back over a bank so not a chance of holding it either. With 3 well played tee shots the best score on the hole ended up being a 5!

We couldn't fly at greens, we couldn't land the ball short there was simply no way of getting a ball to stay in the green even chip and runs would fly on through..

One fella off 9 who plays in our B team shot a 108 nett 99! When we got back in all the guy in shop could say we'll why not play a qualifier it's same for everyone.

So 0.1 back it is then...

Madness. If they insist on the course being open at least run some kind of 'fun' comp.

Will be interested to hear if CSS is RO
 

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Well we always want to play don't we? I think to a certain extent you don't how bad or frozen the greens will be until you're out there hitting at them. And if the course is open you'd assume they're alright wouldn't you? I would assume someone from the club had been out and deemed them playable in that case.

Of course we always want to play, I've played many times on greens that were frozen solid. However I was well aware of what conditions were like and I took the decision to play anyway. I certainly didn't complain after that the course should never be open.

I don't really buy that you don't know how bad the greens are until you're out there. Common sense would dictate that there'd be a high chance of them being frozen and I'd assume most clubs have a practice green where it would soon become obvious.

My point really was that clubs can't win here. Close the course and you'll have members complaining that it should of been open. Open it and you'll have members moaning it's closed, when the reality is no-one forced them to play.

One thing I will accept is the decision to play a qualifier in such conditions does seem daft, although presumably if conditions are that bad then CSS should take care of this.
 

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Not quite sure where you got from my post that I'd suggested you shouldn't have an opinion. In fact it was quite the opposite. Rather than blaming your course for not closing, perhaps you could of thought for yourself and decided not to play.
As I said the others wanted to play the game should I have just not bothered I'd have got a reprimand for not playing without giving the required notice to pull out, so I play the comp act as a marker and do the decent thing by not letting my PP down.

Still doesn't mean I have to agree with it just because the club deemed it to be the right decision, my decision was made on I don't wish to miss out on future comps because of pulling out last minute so I got on with it and vented my frustrations afterward to the Pro and on here. Quite simple really it was my opinion and that of many others on the day. Nobody said you have to understand or agree with it.
 

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As I said the others wanted to play the game should I have just not bothered I'd have got a reprimand for not playing without giving the required notice to pull out, so I play the comp act as a marker and do the decent thing by not letting my PP down.

Still doesn't mean I have to agree with it just because the club deemed it to be the right decision, my decision was made on I don't wish to miss out on future comps because of pulling out last minute so I got on with it and vented my frustrations afterward to the Pro and on here. Quite simple really it was my opinion and that of many others on the day. Nobody said you have to understand or agree with it.

Of course not, and likewise you don't have to agree with mine. However by posting your opinions on a public forum surely I am allowed to challenge such opinions without you getting worked up.

Anyway we're going round in circles here I wasn't looking for an argument. Count yourself lucky you got out to play at all, my course was closed all weekend :(
 

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Of course not, and likewise you don't have to agree with mine. However by posting your opinions on a public forum surely I am allowed to challenge such opinions without you getting worked up.

Anyway we're going round in circles here I wasn't looking for an argument. Count yourself lucky you got out to play at all, my course was closed all weekend :(
That's why I posted it, I merely responded to you saying don't see why people say such things.. That could be said for nay opinion on any forum I guess.

As much as it was a frustrating day and I do think perhaps in hindsight with it being open they should have changed comp to an NQ or RO, I can't be unhappy with how I hit the ball.
 
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