Crazyface
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Control desk in a secure building a long way from pumps.
How To Stop People Driving
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Crazyface
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You just make it as difficult as possible for these scrotes to get fuel.
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Sounds like your new system is going to cost billions to implement 
If that kind of money is available I would rather see it spent on health, education, policing etc.
If that kind of money is available I would rather see it spent on health, education, policing etc.
NWJocko
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There probably is a solution but not petrol related (you/anyone can walk into a station and put petrol in a can and walk out).
To stop them driving has to be something within the car, scan your driving license before the car ignition system will work etc. Problem with that in terms of implementing is cost both of establishing the system and probably compensation for when someone is incorrectly stopped from starting their car to get to work!!
To stop them driving has to be something within the car, scan your driving license before the car ignition system will work etc. Problem with that in terms of implementing is cost both of establishing the system and probably compensation for when someone is incorrectly stopped from starting their car to get to work!!
Blue in Munich
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Well you're not doing a very good job of it as there are more holes in your plan than a fishing net.
woody69
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You're not a politician are you?
Ha excellent. So now your proposal is making people redundant. We can add increase in unemployment and additional JSA applications to the cost of your scheme.
woody69
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Tech in the car is the most likely solution. A "smart" car that knows who is sitting in it and the ability for the car to be started/stopped from a central location if there are issues.
SocketRocket
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What about Cake and Pie Shops. If you are Obese it checks your medical record and locks the shop door.
Pubs, if you are on parole for drunken offenses then the beer pumps and optics don't work.
There must be lots of these.
Pubs, if you are on parole for drunken offenses then the beer pumps and optics don't work.
There must be lots of these.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
The police were trying out a device where you had to blow down a tube in the car and if it detected alcohol it wouldn't allow the car to start.
bobmac
Major Champion
Where there's a will there's a way.
Don't try and remove the way, remove the will.
In other words, teach youngsters the difference between right and wrong from a very young age.
Don't try and remove the way, remove the will.
In other words, teach youngsters the difference between right and wrong from a very young age.
It's easy to criticise but it's not the worst idea. In the US you have to pay for fuel before you fill up, why not copy that. If you then had to have your d/licence scanned before filling up that would help. Some would get around it but it would stop quite a few. Yes, someone else could fill up for you but there are always ways around things. You have to start somewhere. Do nothing isn't working so better to try something.
Blue in Munich
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As has already been said, someone with a valid licence will pay leaving a full tank for the disqualified driver. You find when you work with this sort of thing there is a greater incentive and a higher rate of remuneration for finding ways round the system than there is for enforcing it, and there would be an unwillingness to pay for it amongst the law abiding. Doing nothing; how about the politicians stop replacing coppers with cameras, that might help.
drdel
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The current systems works and there is no logic in changing it for the smallest minority that get publicity.
Modern society relies upon access to the car for the majority of families.
Much of modern law enforcement is by machine based rules and camera 'evidence' that has no discretion. Having a 'human' based Court and magistrate system allows some mitigation when genuine hardship could result from a mechanistic application of the 'law'.
Arguing for changing the Law that works for the 20mill UK drivers covering many billion miles per year for one or two exceptions is pseudo moral band-standing. Just in case the trolls want to know my licence is clean and has been for decades!
Modern society relies upon access to the car for the majority of families.
Much of modern law enforcement is by machine based rules and camera 'evidence' that has no discretion. Having a 'human' based Court and magistrate system allows some mitigation when genuine hardship could result from a mechanistic application of the 'law'.
Arguing for changing the Law that works for the 20mill UK drivers covering many billion miles per year for one or two exceptions is pseudo moral band-standing. Just in case the trolls want to know my licence is clean and has been for decades!
Liverbirdie
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Easy way round it for the crims, they would just buy diesels.
Khamelion
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As BiM writes, better off putting more Police back in cars and on the street.
My dad, ex traffic officer, told me the other day that the Northumbria force does not have any traffic bikes anymore, if they need them for any reason, bikes from Durham and other areas have to help out.
The reason (so I was told), some bike officer was asked to do something, the reply was it was against H&S, so the end result was to have all bikes removed from service.
My dad, ex traffic officer, told me the other day that the Northumbria force does not have any traffic bikes anymore, if they need them for any reason, bikes from Durham and other areas have to help out.
The reason (so I was told), some bike officer was asked to do something, the reply was it was against H&S, so the end result was to have all bikes removed from service.
Rooter
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My local council have supplied all town center pubs with breathalizers and allowing door staff to check people before they go in! Not sure on the human rights issues this may bring up??
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Wasn't it in the paper the other day a bloke has over 60 points and still allowed to drive!
More Coppers and severe punishment is the only way for me.
More Coppers and severe punishment is the only way for me.
That's the problem, most police forces have little or no inclination to even deal with many traffic offences as it is, let alone follow up MOT and Tax evaders. our prisons are full, so what would we do with all the extra arrests ??
Probably need s to be something radical, but who knows what. impounding is one thing, but they one the whole could just go and buy another banger and not have tax, mot and insurance on that as well.
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Correct Paul. I'm all in favour of a bit of discretion being shown but to amass 60 points is way beyond the law. The guy should have been jailed not allowed to carry on driving! Hardship to his family or not, he clearly knew what he was doing and should be responsible for his actions. Typical namby pamby outcome from the courts IMHO.
Imurg
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To be honest, if you get 12 points and you're let off for whatever reason then you're basically sticking two fingers up to the Law..
If you've got 9 points then you know why you've got 9 points so you stop doing whatever it was that got you the 9 points in the first place
Everyone knows the rules and if you deliberately break them then you need to have your collar felt....
And if you accidentally break the law then you're given another 3 chances before you get "done"
If you're on 9 points you have to toe the line - simples.
60 points is just pathetic and I hope, when he gets caught again - which he obviously will - that they say enough is enough and ban him for a year.
There's too much leniency shown too often.
If you've got 9 points then you know why you've got 9 points so you stop doing whatever it was that got you the 9 points in the first place
Everyone knows the rules and if you deliberately break them then you need to have your collar felt....
And if you accidentally break the law then you're given another 3 chances before you get "done"
If you're on 9 points you have to toe the line - simples.
60 points is just pathetic and I hope, when he gets caught again - which he obviously will - that they say enough is enough and ban him for a year.
There's too much leniency shown too often.
