How to increase swing speed?

Chrismc if you feel your not qualified to give advice why give it.
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pokerjoke,
If you haven't set a New Year's resolution yet, may I suggest one?.........
That you don't go on the offensive with each and every post you submit? There really is no need to be so confrontational all the time, it leaves a sour taste on a fantastic Community driven Forum used by people with a shared love of the beautiful game.
Variety is the spice of life and all that, and no-one expects everyone to have the same opinion, (that would be boring), but there has to be a better way to get your point accross without burning bridges so often.

Have a Merry Xmas and a Happy and Peaceful New Year. :)
 
You know, i.m.o. before searching for more distance/power you need to establish how much your game suffers because of a relative lack of distance. A slow but predictable swing can get you to a low h'cap before chasing the golden goose. It seems to me that a lot of players can already hit the ball perfectly far enough but suffer with almost no accuracy/consistency.
I played to mid-high 70s on a good day (over ten years ago) making bogeys on the long holes before teeing off. I desperately wanted to hit it further but as the swing speed improved and I practised endless drills purely for power/distance, my accuracy and consistency dropped.
Occasionally, when I'm feeling down about my distance, I practice some drills specially to get my (limited) power back. They include all sorts of stuff, some of which I could explain when I have time.
Bottom line though is unless you have reached the stage I was at about 4-6 months before I quit (for over a decade) through frustration, don't chase it too much.
 
N-M-W

The first thing that I noticed in your original post is that you were disappointed with your swing speed, not your distance.

Do you suddenly hit it shorter because your swing speed isn't as fast as you thought it was?

I wouldn't worry about it if you're happy with the way you're hitting the ball, we are what we are. :)
 
rickg you obviously havnt read all my posts,i agree some of my posts are blunt but thats my nature i say it as i see it,if you find that offensive my appologies.
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Fair Enough, Everybody is different and it is the differences between us that make this forum work.
BUT, just before you hit that "Submit" button, read the post you are uploading and try to look at it from the other persons perspective.

If in the light of this "Second look" you think that you may have been a tad blunt / obnoxious . then please rephrase your post as I am not the only one here who wonders what you are on half the time. I often have to re-read your posts to believe what I am seeing

I cant make my mind up whether you are winding up people deliberately, just to provoke a reaction.( In which case, Please grow up and respect your fellow forum members)

or whether you are too stupid to realise what you are saying half the time (in which case please donate your brain cell to medical science)

I cant see any middle ground here

A Slightly Miffed Fragger
 
miffed fragger,i dont care that your miffed i say it as i see it,in response to the opening post i stated that if he has just had a lesson that he paid good money for why the hell didnt he ask a simple question to the pro who was teaching him,it strikes me as the obvious thing to me,he said he forgot,how?,to say i may be stupid is an insult in itself as im very intelligent.im not on this forum to be an ass licker,i say what i feel at the time,tough on some people,nice to others.if you have looked at all my posts you will clearly see the support i have given some people,get off your high horse.
 
I think that there is a sub-conscious impulse to want to hit the ball further. Its an inanimate object just sitting there and golfers seem to have a primevil desire to club it to death.

After years of futility following this approach I would recommend a short but safe approach everytime. Better to be 200 yards down the hole on the fairway than 250 OB or unplayable. However if you want to build more swing speed in my opinion you need a combination of a proper turn, correct set of the club and a smooth tempo.

I am infamous on here for my swing where I was very quick (blink and you missed it) and have a problem with losing my spine angle. Consequently I am not a long hitter. I've been working on a shorter backswong but a tighter coil making sure the weight stays on the inside of the right foot. However the biggest thing I've worked on is a slower tempo to give me time going back to get into the better position and time through the shot. It is still a work in progress but when it works and there are minimal moving parts to it, the distance created by a slower more controlled swing is sublime (at least another ten yards with less effort)
 
miffed fragger,i dont care that your miffed i say it as i see it,in response to the opening post i stated that if he has just had a lesson that he paid good money for why the hell didnt he ask a simple question to the pro who was teaching him,it strikes me as the obvious thing to me,he said he forgot,how?,to say i may be stupid is an insult in itself as im very intelligent .im not on this forum to be an ass licker,i say what i feel at the time,tough on some people,nice to others.if you have looked at all my posts you will clearly see the support i have given some people,get off your high horse.
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Could be that most people actually have trouble reading what you post. The fact that you can't be bothered to punctuate correctly indicates a lack of respect for those you want to read your posts.
 
In the words of the great Harry Hill...

...............FIGHT..............


No body is asking you to be an asslicker you dipstick
Why do you have to be so confrontational(look it up) all the time?

There have been at least 4 other forum members who have remonstrated with your posts just today.

This is not about you personally, I do not know you
But it is an attack on your online persona which quite a few forum members find objectionable.

If Other forum members disagree with me then I will gladly back off,

you seem to take pride in saying " I say it as I see it"

well I am doing the same, You need to grow up, stop being a dickhead and respect your fellow Forum Members.

Happy 2010

Fragger
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rickg you obviously havnt read all my posts,i agree some of my posts are blunt but thats my nature i say it as i see it,if you find that offensive my appologies.
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Hi Tony,
On the contrary, I have read most of your posts, and whilst I agree that some are supportive, that doesn't excuse the ones that are rude. It is one thing to say it as it is, but a totally different matter to hurt someones feelings in the process. You go on to say that you are very intelligent in another post, but there is more to intelligence than just IQ. A far greater attribute is EQ or Emotional Intelligence.
This requires you to have a certain amount of empathy with whoever your are communicating with and requires the capability to assess your own emotions as well as others.
I can thouroughly recommend a book by Daniel Goleman (Emotional Intelligence: Why It Can Matter More Than IQ), if you wish to research the subject further.
I think there is some good advice offered which is just read your thread back before hitting the submit button.
You don't get any prizes for winding people up.

I admire your self drive and self belief which has got you down from 24 to 12 in such a short space of time, and I believe you when you say you will get down to single figures next year without lessons, but you have to temper this drive with a bit of respect for your fellow contributors.
I hope you take this advice in the right way as it not meant as a personal attack, but with the intention of trying to keep things civil all the time, not just when it suits. I would urge you not to formulate an immediate response but maybe think about it over a glass of mulled wine. Cheers!!
Happy Xmas to you and your family. :)
 
After years of futility following this approach I would recommend a short but safe approach everytime. Better to be 200 yards down the hole on the fairway than 250 OB or unplayable. However if you want to build more swing speed in my opinion you need a combination of a proper turn, correct set of the club and a smooth tempo.
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You are only kidding yourself by saying you recommend the short & safe approach. Resigned to accept it and do the best with it maybe, but no-one can hand on heart recommend it.

There is ultimately a trade off between distance and accuracy and the more you can get of the first without significant sacrifice on the latter the better off you will be. If any of us could find another 15 or 20 yds and still be on the golf course, that extra loft you will go into greens with will pay dividends.
 
The perfect thread example of when threads descend into all sorts of advice being given out rather than what the original poster actually asked.
He mentioned that this was "a" lesson, not his final one and would be consulting his regular teaching pro again.
In my mind his question is valid though will get a better answer waiting for his next lesson.
Personal advice amongst those rambling in the thread while entertaining, doesn't really help NMW very much though Im sure his own social and common sense skills have just been tuned up a notch.
Back on subject please.
If anyone wants any specific posts removed, contact myself or one of the other mods if online. The thread is not being deleted, moved nor moderated unless we/I get specific reasons.
Thanks all and have a merry xmas, I hear Santa is in Casablanca right now, better get into your beds quickly otherwise he might not stop at your house.
http://www.noradsanta.org/en/index.html
 
My pro has told me distance is more to do with amount of rotation. You want to hit it further you need to rotate more thereby creating more coil and more distance.

Look at a YouTube clip of Tiger Woods in slow motion. He has so much rotation on his back swing with a straight left arm it's unbelievable. To improve your flexibility you could try taking you stance with your bum lightly touching a wall. Then swing round slowly and try and put your hands on the wall. Repeat this about ten times or so every day.

However, main people to listen to are people like bob who are qualified coaches.
 
It doesnt matter how far you hit the ball as long as its straight most of the time.

There are a couple of pages in TG about Bubba Watson about how he generates more distance. I was and have been always told that I need to slow my swing down, but to me it feels right. I went to AG last week and on the Vector I was averaging at about 97mph but with a stiff shaft it dropped to 87mph and half the distance. Get yourself fitted out if you have not already.
 
Well this certainly isn't the thread I thought it would be. Brendy has it, it was "a" lesson, not my last or only one (and it was free PJ). Had to go to the course yesterday to pick something up, managed to have a chat with the pro whilst there. I asked the same question, he gave me a couple of exercises to do (again F.O.C. advice). When he was showing me, I remembered he did show me on the day, but I had forgotten afterwards.

Remembering stuff/ forgetting stuff has no bearing on how clever or "dumb" you are/ I am, it happens as you get older, stress, work pressure, family life etc. builds up. Just the way of it, although I'm sure taht there are some out there who never forget a thing, like my 9 year old son.

Thanks for all the advice guys and gals. I fully understand the benefits of accuracy over distance, I also understand that when I am shorter down the fairway, it means I use a longer club next time.

The original question in the thread was a simple one, does anyone know any exercises to help increase swing speed. I was disaapointed in the swing speed, thought it was on the low side of average. I know that at my age I'm not going to swing like Tiger/ Sergio/ Adam/ Rory et, was just looking at exercises I can do to help improve the body to assist the swing.

Off to Japan now, will catch up with my teaching pro upon return. Have a happy christmas and think of me queueing at Heathrow whilst your all tucking into your christmas roast, I gotta make do with a bacon butty before the taxi comes...
 
After years of futility following this approach I would recommend a short but safe approach everytime. Better to be 200 yards down the hole on the fairway than 250 OB or unplayable. However if you want to build more swing speed in my opinion you need a combination of a proper turn, correct set of the club and a smooth tempo.
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You are only kidding yourself by saying you recommend the short & safe approach. Resigned to accept it and do the best with it maybe, but no-one can hand on heart recommend it.

There is ultimately a trade off between distance and accuracy and the more you can get of the first without significant sacrifice on the latter the better off you will be. If any of us could find another 15 or 20 yds and still be on the golf course, that extra loft you will go into greens with will pay dividends.
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You sort of beat me to it here it Robobum. I would rather take 13 tee shots at 250+ with varying degrees of clarity of lie (as long as I can get a club to them). The other drive (usually out of 14 on our course) I would accept OB or unplayable. Hence I would give myself numerous good chances with a wedge or similar in hand and could absorb the bad drive into the rounds score.

I would hate to give up distance for perceived accuracy on the assumption this would help me score better...IMO it certainly wouldnt. 200 yards off every tee but on the fairway would really limit my birdie/eagle chances and put a lot more onus on short game skills to save par as I would probably miss an awful lot more greens with the longer approaches
 
Had a session on a flightscope the other week with the club pro. It seems that I have quite a slow swing speed (82mph with a driver and a little slower with others). I was really surprised with this swing speed, and quite disappointed as when I play normally, and hit the ball well, I'm sure it flies better than the yardage being reported on the flightscope (have measured using GPS!) :D

The club pro is not my usual instructor, although I have had a couple of sessions with him, unfortunately they always turn into a disaster as I seem to get really nervous under his eye. I'm much more relaxed with my normal pro and hit much better when working with him. That's not to insinuate that the club pro is no good, have learnt some good stuff with him. He knows I see someone else and pointed out a couple of things going wrong whilst doing the flightscope, and suggested I bring them up with my normal guy so that he (club pro) didn't confuse me with mixed messages and my regular pro could fix them.

Anyways, question I haven't been able to ask yet, and won't be able to for a couple of weeks now, is how can I increase my swing speed? Are there any excercises that are good for helping out here?
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Shouldn't get nervous. The pro is your hired help, just like you were consulting an accountant or lawyer for advice, and he should be the one striving to impress.

82mph is not fast with the driver, and it may be that you are not employing enough levers, that is you are swinging your shoulders, but not making enough of the wrists.

The other thing worth thinking about is the X Factor. No, not the Simon Cowell horror show, but the difference between hip and shoulder turn. Essentially, the more you can separate the hip and shoulder turns, the more torque or snap you can return to the ball.

http://www.golfdigest.com/instruction/swing/2008/01/mclean_xfactor
 
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