Away from/as well as the possibility of less hot equipment and balls would you like to see pros using fewer clubs to maybe add a bit of artistry and ask a few more questions of them?
How many clubs would you like to see pros use?
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AAC
Well-known member
I think 14 clubs are fine for pro's, why mess with something that has worked well for decades.
sweaty sock
Hacker
14...
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Wouldn't it just slow things up even more...?
Do I step on an 8 or hold back a 6..
Let me get my laser out.....
Do I step on an 8 or hold back a 6..
Let me get my laser out.....
sweaty sock
Hacker
I wonder how many they actually use in a round. With planning they would likely just take the 8 or nine thay most likely need and it would have next to no impact?
A few years ago Dustin Johnson said his longest club to a par 4 was a 6-iron which he might have hit once
TBh it makes no difference to me, they play in diff conditions, with diff rules some of the time and equipment we don't have access to much of the time. they may as well play with 20 clubs
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14 ... same as me.
Tongo
Journeyman Pro
I think they should have to do without a caddie rather than reduce the number of clubs.
Ah, but what club does he use for his second shot into a par 5? Par 5's to these guys are like par 4's to us.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Who cares? For some reason 14 was the number decided upon at some stage in the past, so that'll do fine.
He hit a fairway wood to one last week which looked really odd. Unless they're 600 yards the timber won't leave the bag
Robert Rock said this which is why I'm interested. I care as I think golf is everything by numbers these days and, as great as custom fitting is, there is a club for every occasion.
"If we were to drop to 13 the 5-wood would be the first club to go, which would leave a big gap between my 3-wood and 4-iron, and if we then were only allowed to carry 12 clubs then that would be really interesting. Now I would have to miss out on both my 5w/3i and my lob wedge and that would make it a very different game. If I only had a 56˚ wedge I probably wouldn't even attempt some shots but with more loft I'm OK and I'm not sure that's right. Today's short-game stars would prosper and there would be more emphasis on skill so I don't think it would be the worst move (in the professional game) if there was a limit to how much loft you could have in your wedges."
All that said, I see we both carry the Sure Out wedge (which is amazing)
Swinglowandslow
Well-known member
Certainly no caddie should be allowed on the green, or assist in the putting decision process.
( sorry, off topic)
Orikoru
Tour Winner
The thing is, iron sets are probably gapped with a 14-set in mind. If it had always been 12, they might have made irons with 5 or 5.5 degree gaps instead 4 degrees, or whatever. So that would cover for one missing club, probably.
Yeah the Sure Out has been a great addition. Even if I had to go down to 12 or 13 clubs I'd probably drop one of my other wedges before I drop that one.
r0wly86
Head Pro
That's a really interesting point.
The 14 club rule was made presumably donkeys years ago and I'd imagine the reasons bear no relation to the modern professional game. I think Jiminez has said something similar that with fewer clubs there would be more emphasis on manufacturing shots rather than having a club to do it. The legend that Seve learnt to play golf with only a 3 iron and so can to learn how to manipulate the club more.
Crow
Crow Person
Three.
r0wly86
Head Pro
I'm not sure anything would need changing in terms of loft, iff it went down to 12 say, chances are you would lose the 60 degree and 5 wood. the main set of irons would be intact.
Yeah, think it's the wedge end of things where it would be good to limit a bit for the pros. They can obviously fudge the lofts to make them work with the irons, I always like the idea of just having the lofts on the clubs but haven't got the brains to work out if that's a good or bad thing.
Agree on the scores, maybe even better as we'd maybe be more confident with what we have
I've got five wedges (of sorts) but the only one I'd definitely keep is the Sure Out 64 which has saved me losing a dozen balls a year. The other four do pretty much the same thing ie not much
