williamalex1
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You may want edit to --affect the rest o fuk.
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How does Scottish Independence affect the rest of the Union?
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Foxholer
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Not being racist. Just pointing out what an indigenous native British person would have looked like up until the late 1940's. OK we invited in some Caribbean folk in the 1950's and Ugandan Asians in the 1970's and they are now several generations down the line Brits, but nothing like the numbers that New Labour allowed in during their last term of office, despite the spin that they were controlling immigration. Anybody who complained about this influx of immigrants was labelled a racist bigot by the PC brigade! :mmm:
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Isn't Cameron a Scottish name? Conspiracy theory! :mmm:
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User62651
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It is indeed - he has Scottish aristocratic heritage going back a good few generations, distant cousin of HM The Queen too.
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CheltenhamHacker
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A bigot or an immigrant?
Could also be a complainant or a member of the PC brigade!
woody69
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Polish, Romanian, Ukranian, Russian etc all look similar to an "indigenous native British person" (whatever that is). Are they included in your opinion of immigrants overrunning the country?
Yes!
woody69
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Yes!
I'm not really sure what this has to do with the debate on how Scottish independence affects the rest of the union? Are you concerned that if the Scots vote yes, large swathes of them will cross the highlands and descend upon England looking for jobs putting additional strain on our creaking infrastructure thanks to all those other damn immigrants that "took ar jobs"?
Foxholer
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Yeah right! Just xenophobic, right wing, dogmatic clap-trap and yes, racist imo!
And absolutely nothing to do with the thread topic!
As an aside, you should check the immigration stats to see how the current lot are performing!
It's quite possible that loads of Scots will want to move south of Hadrian's Wall, once Mr Salmond's Socialist policies start to bite. The majority of immigrants seem to go to London and the South-East of England. If you go into many shops and pubs down here, there is a fair chance that you will be served by somebody with an East European accent. Our roads are totally clogged up in the rush hours, and there is an acute shortage of housing, with prices getting ever higher due to demand outstripping supply. Many open spaces, including golf courses, are under threat of being developed into new housing estates.
CheltenhamHacker
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I think it's time you went and played golf del. This thread is about Scottish Independence. If you want a thread to start a diatribe on immigration, go do it elsewhere!
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So I've just started watching Gordon Brown on BBC, and I had an interesting thought.
IF Scotland says NO, which I can only help they will do, and it results in a change to the way Scotland is run, does anyone think it would be a perfect time to reassess the whole governmental system?
a) Set up an English assembly, giving the same powers to that as the Scottish one. Could have this set up in Manchester or somewhere, to bring politics outside the South East
b) significantly reduce the number of MPs in the UK Parliament
c) Review the way the House of Lords is populated.
Would be an amazing change, and really bring it into the 21st century.
Any thoughts?
IF Scotland says NO, which I can only help they will do, and it results in a change to the way Scotland is run, does anyone think it would be a perfect time to reassess the whole governmental system?
a) Set up an English assembly, giving the same powers to that as the Scottish one. Could have this set up in Manchester or somewhere, to bring politics outside the South East
b) significantly reduce the number of MPs in the UK Parliament
c) Review the way the House of Lords is populated.
Would be an amazing change, and really bring it into the 21st century.
Any thoughts?
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SocketRocket
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Yes, I would agree broadly with those points. England will deserve their own assembly that has similar devolved powers.
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Agree wholeheartedly, but cant see it happening - politicians on the whole are in it for themselves and an awful lot of MP's like the London lifestyle, traditions and all its priviledges and will fight tooth and nail not to go 'up north'. Regional assemblies are more likely but would they have any 'real' power or is it just more civil servants we don't need? Its all empty talk at the mo to get Scotland to vote no, then it'll move to all about the general election for the next 6/7 months where team BT lot will suddenly be at eachothers throats again. UK establishment have all the power and significant change is highly unlikely. Once the Scottish rebellion is quashed it'll go back to how it always is. Personally I hope for abandonment of party politics and more and more independent MPs winning seats who don't dance to the tune of power crazed party leaders. Proportional representation is long overdue, seems to work at Holyrood, why not at Westminster (or Manchester!).
CheltenhamHacker
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I hate how true that is
What I would love for the UK is to completely reassess it, get the PR, get regional assemblies with good levels of power, and a massively condensed Westminster for overall control.
Old Skier
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I just want people to vote. That's half the problem with what happened in Scotland, they moan about what party is in power in Westminister and then you find over half didn't even bother to vote. Wonder what the outcome of this vote would have been if only those that voted in the last Gen Election could vote this time round.
