How does Scottish Independence affect the rest of the Union?

[Doon frae Troon]

Milliband and Cameron coming up to Scotland AGAIN to love bomb us and tell us all the unanswered questions [according to my Mrs].

Is it not a shame that they could not have done this at the start of the campaign, or even before thousands have already voted.

Totally disrespectful, shame on them.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Milliband and Cameron coming up to Scotland AGAIN to love bomb us and tell us all the unanswered questions [according to my Mrs].

Is it not a shame that they could not have done this at the start of the campaign, or even before thousands have already voted.

Totally disrespectful, shame on them.

Shame on them? For campaigning in the run up to the vote? Just like the yes side will be doing?

Give it a rest, please!

 

[Imurg]

Not giving a stuff plays into the hands of the YES campaign as it signifies that the English don't care about Scotland - and that is one factor as to why we are where we are today. Too many English just don't give a stuff.

And this seems to be the heart of the Yes campaign...England doesn't give a stuff, let's go Independent...
That's a well reasoned and thought out argument for breaking the Union - forget about whether it will work financially, socially or economically....

Quite frankly, I'm fed up with it.
I don't really care which way Scotland votes - you can't say "the Scots" because a large number of those voting simply aren't - I don't think it's likely to affect me one way or the other - much like a By-election in Bolton - I just want it over and done with.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Following a Yes win, who do you think will be the new Tory leader after Cameron resigns?

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Following a Yes win, who do you think will be the new Tory leader after Cameron resigns?

Come on Doon, at least people settle into work on a gloomy Monday morning before you start all of the wind up.

 

[Dodger]

Come on Doon, at least people settle into work on a gloomy Monday morning before you start all of the wind up.

Valid question.IF it happens he's done and there is hardly a shining light at the front of the que is there?

 

[Hobbit]

Milliband and Cameron coming up to Scotland AGAIN to love bomb us and tell us all the unanswered questions [according to my Mrs].

Is it not a shame that they could not have done this at the start of the campaign, or even before thousands have already voted.

Totally disrespectful, shame on them.

Shame on them? For campaigning in the run up to the vote? Just like the yes side will be doing?

Give it a rest, please!

Following a Yes win, who do you think will be the new Tory leader after Cameron resigns?

Doon, switch to decaf before you froth over completely.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Valid question.IF it happens he's done and there is hardly a shining light at the front of the que is there?

Why must he be done?

You have already said that Scotland didn't vote for him, so therefore the Conservatives must be in a good position to be re-elected, why would they get rid of their leader, who has actually done quite a good job to date.

You can't get rid of him if 50.1% of Scots were gullible enough to fall for Salmonds nonsense.

And Doon, shouldn't you be concerned with Scotland, rather than what may or may not happen in the next couple of years in the UK, after you've left us??

 

[CMAC]

DFT and Dodgers posts just brighten up my day.

Whenever I think the YES campaign might be starting to make a point I come on here and see the real level of (mis)understanding and assumptive attacks regurgitated daily.

 

[Coatsy79]

I honestly hope it is a yes because, much like the referendums on independence in Quebec, it just keeps rolling on and on and on, until they get the Yes anyway and that will waste millions

Odd to think that if it's 51% Yes, 49% No Salmond will wave his arms in triumph, but if it were the other way around he would argue nearly half the country wants to be independent and it will roll on and on

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I honestly hope it is a yes because, much like the referendums on independence in Quebec, it just keeps rolling on and on and on, until they get the Yes anyway and that will waste millions

Odd to think that if it's 51% Yes, 49% No Salmond will wave his arms in triumph, but if it were the other way around he would argue nearly half the country wants to be independent and it will roll on and on

Aye - the (Canadian) Neverendum - incorrectly mentioned by a BBC R5L reporter lass as relating to the current referendum going on and on But hey - she must have thought it sounded good taken out of it's original context as something someone might have said about the current debate

 

[19thagain]

...........
Quite frankly, I'm fed up with it.
I don't really care which way Scotland votes - you can't say "the Scots" because a large number of those voting simply aren't - I don't think it's likely to affect me one way or the ..............

I would agree with your observation.... a large percentage of voters are English and we will have to factor this into our need to squeeze every last voter away from the telly and into the voting booth.

The passion is rising, the brickies are on stand by to rebuild Hadrians wall, starting Saturday morning, double time is worth it to keep the English from flowing North.

Englandshire will relax over their English breakfasts on Sunday morning, watching the Andrew Marr show explaining what a super strategic plan your Davie boy followed by pretending he wanted Scotland to stay in the Union when they are just a financial drain.

Better rid, he will say.

We of course will all be in Romania with our begging bowls seeking sympathy and financial support as our sugar daddies have left us to starve.

Dream On!

 

[Dodger]

I would agree with your observation.... a large percentage of voters are English and we will have to factor this into our need to squeeze every last voter away from the telly and into the voting booth.

The passion is rising, the brickies are on stand by to rebuild Hadrians wall, starting Saturday morning, double time is worth it to keep the English from flowing North.

Englandshire will relax over their English breakfasts on Sunday morning, watching the Andrew Marr show explaining what a super strategic plan your Davie boy followed by pretending he wanted Scotland to stay in the Union when they are just a financial drain.

Better rid, he will say.

We of course will all be in Romania with our begging bowls seeking sympathy and financial support as our sugar daddies have left us to starve.

Dream On!

Careful....somebody will be reaching for the kleenex if he reads that.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Careful....somebody will be reaching for the kleenex if he reads that.

Why is that ? Was just asking where the place was Dodger as can't find it on a map and surely I wouldn't expect someone from the Yes campaign to resort to childish nicknames because they wouldn't do that would they.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Why is that ? Was just asking where the place was Dodger as can't find it on a map and surely I wouldn't expect someone from the Yes campaign to resort to childish nicknames because they wouldn't do that would they.

Phil, you need to pick your battles better. Englandshire is an affectionate nickname for England that many of us use. Including myself on at least one of these threads.

I'm also rather fond of using Walesland. :thup:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Phil, you need to pick your battles better. Englandshire is an affectionate nickname for England that many of us use. Including myself on at least one of these threads.

I'm also rather fond of using Walesland. :thup:

I have never honestly heard of it - I thought there was a very grey area in regards affectionate names for each country etc .

 

[HDID Kenny]

Read most of this said nothing so far, I've been a no for a long time then a few months back I swung towards yes TBH I am now undecided swaying towards no, anyway a question for my fellow Scots in the yes camp.
If the vote was for the English to vote on England becoming independent from Scotland would you be saying good riddance or would you be bricking the thought of being abandoned without having any control over the outcome?? Honesty please.

 

[SocketRocket]

Phil, you need to pick your battles better. Englandshire is an affectionate nickname for England that many of us use. Including myself on at least one of these threads.

I'm also rather fond of using Walesland. :thup:

Maybe if theres a No vote then as a way of strengthening the Union we could create a single country from England and Scotland and name it by taking the first three letters from England and the last four from Scotland.

Only Joking. Honest!

 

[FairwayDodger]

Maybe if theres a No vote as a way of strengthening the Union we could create a single country from England and Scotland and name it by taking the first three letters from England and the last four from Scotland.

Only Joking. Honest!

Lol, :thup:

 

[delc]

The vast majority of the presently constituted UK population live in England, yet we have no English Regional Government or Assembly. Scottish MP's can vote on matters that affect the English, but have no effect on their voters, such as increased prescription charges in England, and Tuition Fees and Student Loans for English Universities. The so called West Lothian Question!

The last Labour Government, headed by Tony Blair (Scottish name, educated in Scotland, probable Scottish connections), Gordon Brown, Alistair Darling and others (definitely Scottish) allowed over 4 million immigrants to flood into the UK, mostly to England, in the hope that they would vote for and keep Labour in power for ever. Didn't work! Now our roads, schools, hospitals and other public services are totally overwhelmed by sheer numbers. I happened to be driving through a suburb of North-West London this afternoon, at School chucking out time. Hardly any of the kids looked exactly native British, but plenty of Indians, Africans, West Indians, East Europeans and East Asians. If I go shopping in my local town, it's getting rare to actually hear English spoken! I have nothing against these people, but should they really be living in our country?
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