How does Scottish Independence affect the rest of the Union?

[Conman85]

Says the person who suggests Wales will follow ?

Do you not watch the news? They have already made murmurings..............if we go, I have no doubt they will go too!

But, personally I think the vote will be no, better the devil you know and all that will likely prevail! It has been fun listening to some of this the last couple of months though!

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

My apologies, thread!

So once again:

Is it just me that finds it ludicrous you would come on a Scottish Independence THREAD to moan about Scots?

Ah, see, you're getting confused with reading two words of the title, and thinking it's about Scots.

It's not.

It has been pointed out many times, we have no control over what our Scottish brethren do next Thursday. zilch.

We're talking about the UK/rUK/fUK/WENI (Whatever you want to call it), POST yes vote, if that did happen.

If fundy feels the Scots would make UK (et al) worse because of going independent, then of course he will moan about it, as we are discussing post YES.

Please do keep up Conman.

With that name, I'm just checking, you're not Alex Salmond are you???

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Do you not watch the news? They have already made murmurings..............if we go, I have no doubt they will go too!

But, personally I think the vote will be no, better the devil you know and all that will likely prevail! It has been fun listening to some of this the last couple of months though!

Please point me to these news murmurings that suggest Wales will look for independence if Scotland vote yes

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Do you not watch the news? They have already made murmurings..............if we go, I have no doubt they will go too!

But, personally I think the vote will be no, better the devil you know and all that will likely prevail! It has been fun listening to some of this the last couple of months though!

Did you not see the last time independence was raised in Wales? Overwhelming decline for the idea.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Do you not watch the news? They have already made murmurings..............if we go, I have no doubt they will go too!

But, personally I think the vote will be no, better the devil you know and all that will likely prevail! It has been fun listening to some of this the last couple of months though!

Disagree.Wales is a weird, alternative parallel place to the extent if it was just renames Walesshire and every facet of a principality removed, I actually think the Welsh would endorse that.They seem very happy with their lot in life.Strange folk.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Disagree.Wales is a weird, alternative parallel place to the extent if it was just renames Walesshire and every facet of a principality removed, I actually think the Welsh would endorse that.They seem very happy with their lot in life.Strange folk.

So because they want to stay part of the union and contribute to continuing to make the UK great that makes them weird and strange ?!

 

[Conman85]

Please point me to these news murmurings that suggest Wales will look for independence if Scotland vote yes

Google is your friend, John Major was forced to address it on Tuesday on the Radio. This was after several polls showed an increase in the number of voters wanting an independent Wales should Scotland go it alone. I think the number jumped from 12% to 17% in favour of independence. It just takes a welsh Salmond and you never know!

Do you not watch the news? They have already made murmurings..............if we go, I have no doubt they will go too!

But, personally I think the vote will be no, better the devil you know and all that will likely prevail! It has been fun listening to some of this the last couple of months though!

Did you not see the last time independence was raised in Wales? Overwhelming decline for the idea.

Yes just like I also seen a resounding yes in 2011 when they had the law making referendum. People always want more power, it's human nature!

 

[Conman85]

How about for old times sake we all sing Rule Britannia?

 

[turkish]

Disagree.Wales is a weird, alternative parallel place to the extent if it was just renames Walesshire and every facet of a principality removed, I actually think the Welsh would endorse that.They seem very happy with their lot in life.Strange folk.

A very noble and respectful view of another country.... Do you pigeon hole other nations so quickly and easily?

 

[Adi2Dassler]

A very noble and respectful view of another country.... Do you pigeon hole other nations so quickly and easily?

Ach, I was only jesting.I've got relatives down there and they all seem sound.I do find the lack of desire for self determination very strange,though.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Google is your friend, John Major was forced to address it on Tuesday on the Radio. This was after several polls showed an increase in the number of voters wanting an independent Wales should Scotland go it alone. I think the number jumped from 12% to 17% in favour of independence. It just takes a welsh Salmond and you never know!

Do you not watch the news? They have already made murmurings..............if we go, I have no doubt they will go too!

But, personally I think the vote will be no, better the devil you know and all that will likely prevail! It has been fun listening to some of this the last couple of months though!

Did you not see the last time independence was raised in Wales? Overwhelming decline for the idea.

Yes just like I also seen a resounding yes in 2011 when they had the law making referendum. People always want more power, it's human nature!

17% :rofl:

And one person suggests they may possibly look at independence ( that person not even being Welsh )

Laughably thin

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Ach, I was only jesting.I've got relatives down there and they all seem sound.I do find the lack of desire for self determination very strange,though.

Why strange ? Maybe they realise that being self determined isn't all it's cracked up to be

Maybe they realise they strength in numbers the UK provides

Maybe they realise the pitfalls and dangers of going Independant could destroy the country

Maybe just maybe they don't fancy having a country that struggles

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Why strange ? Maybe they realise that being self determined isn't all it's cracked up to be

Maybe they realise they strength in numbers the UK provides

Maybe they realise the pitfalls and dangers of going Independant could destroy the country

Maybe just maybe they don't fancy having a country that struggles

Maybe cause North East Wales is just part of metropolitan Liverpool

 

[Conman85]

17% :rofl:

And one person suggests they may possibly look at independence ( that person not even being Welsh )

Laughably thin

I think you either missed or don't understand the meaning of the word murmuring

I'll also add that the yes vote was sitting at just 23% in favour around August 2013, so tides aren't long in changing!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Maybe cause North East Wales is just part of metropolitan Liverpool

The cathedral or University ?

 

[Hobbit]

Maybe cause North East Wales is just part of metropolitan Liverpool

You may put a winky smiley there, but having lived there for a number of years I can tell you it is very English. Many from the Wirral and Liverpool moved across the border in the 70's before the oil crisis... it was heaving with "calm down's, calm down's."

But go across to north west & mid Wales and you could be in a village pub and not hear a word of english spoken.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I think you either missed or don't understand the meaning of the word murmuring

I'll also add that the yes vote was sitting at just 23% in favour around August 2013, so tides aren't long in changing!

As I said - thin -even thinner than a wafer.

 

[Conman85]

As I said - thin -even thinner than a wafer.

And its this kind of disregard for the minority that had Westminister swashbuckling North on Wednesday to plead for votes!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And its this kind of disregard for the minority that had Westminister swashbuckling North on Wednesday to plead for votes!

Not disregarding anything

Wales IMO will never vote for independence - expect they won't even ask for a vote on it.

 

[Dodger]

I couldn't give a flying toss what the UK wants to call itself.

Us no longer being part of it is all I care about.