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Just reading local paper, and we are going to have a hose pipe ban introduced in the next few weeks.:confused: Have I slept through a few months and we are now into August and it hasn't rained for three months ?

'I can't believe it'
 
Nope tis true. Stupid thing is you can run as many buckets as you want to wash the car etc. Lack of long term investment and a consolidated upgrade and the infrastructure to blame. Utilities putting profit before performance - AGAIN
 
Homer I work for the utility companies and what I hate is how people Jump on our backs constantly. To upgrade all pipe work would cost 100s of millions of pounds. Also it's not just the pipe work which is the problem there is alot more to it.
As for the ban it's probably down to reservoir levels in your area and they are purely trying to protect them a bit. Although its rained it's been a mild and fairly dry winter. And before someone stars about water leaks in the road etc as they have watched panorama this evening don't lol. There is a lot more to it than they made out when it comes to repairing leaks half the problem is battling the highways agency to let us go and dig the road and put up lights etc
 
Mild connor ? It might be where you live, but I have still got the heating on every day. Can't believe there has been much evaporation.:mmm:
 
connor said:
Homer I work for the utility companies and what I hate is how people Jump on our backs constantly. To upgrade all pipe work would cost 100s of millions of pounds. Also it's not just the pipe work which is the problem there is alot more to it.
As for the ban it's probably down to reservoir levels in your area and they are purely trying to protect them a bit. Although its rained it's been a mild and fairly dry winter. And before someone stars about water leaks in the road etc as they have watched panorama this evening don't lol. There is a lot more to it than they made out when it comes to repairing leaks half the problem is battling the highways agency to let us go and dig the road and put up lights etc
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They could fill the reservoirs, although they have to actually ASK for permission to do so which is ridiculous... but then if they did that they couldn't then enforce water meters, claiming that the whole of the UK is a frikkin' drought area!, and sting us for 3 times more money for the same amount we used last year.... so they let them stay low.

The water companies are a monopoly and it's a SCAM. Another disgrace to the nation... sorry Connor but that's my personal opinion... however true/lie it may be.
 
connor said:
Homer I work for the utility companies and what I hate is how people Jump on our backs constantly. To upgrade all pipe work would cost 100s of millions of pounds. Also it's not just the pipe work which is the problem there is alot more to it.
As for the ban it's probably down to reservoir levels in your area and they are purely trying to protect them a bit. Although its rained it's been a mild and fairly dry winter. And before someone stars about water leaks in the road etc as they have watched panorama this evening don't lol. There is a lot more to it than they made out when it comes to repairing leaks half the problem is battling the highways agency to let us go and dig the road and put up lights etc
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100's of millions you say...that would surely be covered by the BILLIONS made in profit!...but hey I'm not an accountant or utility worker so clearly unqualified to pass comment
 
connor said:
Homer I work for the utility companies and what I hate is how people Jump on our backs constantly. To upgrade all pipe work would cost 100s of millions of pounds. Also it's not just the pipe work which is the problem there is alot more to it.
As for the ban it's probably down to reservoir levels in your area and they are purely trying to protect them a bit. Although its rained it's been a mild and fairly dry winter. And before someone stars about water leaks in the road etc as they have watched panorama this evening don't lol. There is a lot more to it than they made out when it comes to repairing leaks half the problem is battling the highways agency to let us go and dig the road and put up lights etc
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To be honest it isn't the average employee in the utilities I have the issue with. It has been the lack of a long term strategy and investment programme (plus the bonuses but that's another issue). It goes back to before privitisation and whilst I accept that the south is suffering because of low water tables and half filled resevoirs, surely it can't have come as a surprise. We've been getting significantly warmer and having lower raingall for the last decades and so it is the lack of contingency to manage and plan that I have a problem with

As for the leaks, yes again I think the problem hasn't always been tackled head on but concede there isn't an endless pot to deal with the crumbling Victorian infrastructure but it is the tiny things that irritate the bill payers the most. We've had a burst main near us. It has been repaird 5 times in the last 12 months and still bursts. There is clearly something bigger going on but each time it gets patched up with the inevitable disruption to the houses nearby and the traffic. Give it a few weeks or a month and we're back to square one.

I haven't got the answers and like I say for the most part I've no issues with the water companies.
 
Been a mild winter and also fairly dry in comparison. I don't work in your area so unable to comment in your res levels but just trying to give you an insiders view. Doing it now is possibly a knee jerk reaction but it wouldn't surprise me if all companies are now looking at the levels and monitoring them ready for spring/summer. The problem isn't so much the car washing its the old grandpa Tom who spends and hour or 3waterig his grass every day
 
To do a spot repair it costs about 1000 to relay a whole street about 100000 so they would rather do spot repairs. Problem is it would depend on the pipe work. AC MAINS (asbestos cement) have a tendency to once gone they continue to do. As for cast iron mains they can have a prolonged life by relinig the inside which was a massive project down here a couple years back.
If your on a meter and bills are an issue there are ways to help which can be done via a ;)
Also if your disruption is interrupted for 6hours every household is entitled to compo from the water company which they tend not to advertise also if it goes longer than there planned shut down time
 
utterly unbelievable - an island totally surrounded by water - yet we continue to have these hosepipe bans. completely outdated and substandard infrstructure - yet the water companies are allowed to operate as a cartel and make decent profits without having to answer for their actions properly and invest as little as possible in future infrastructure - they have dividends and bonuses to pay dont you know!
 
Move to Scotland we have tons of the stuff..................HANG ON A MINUTE! we could ship it to you, make everyone crossing the border take 100 litres:whistle:

Seriously though if it rains for 3 months you'll still be in a drought, SE is now officially drier than Alice Springs in Oz.

You need bigger reservoirs and more of them, alongside a pipe or canal system from waterlogged Scotland
 
fundy said:
utterly unbelievable - an island totally surrounded by water - yet we continue to have these hosepipe bans. completely outdated and substandard infrstructure - yet the water companies are allowed to operate as a cartel and make decent profits without having to answer for their actions properly and invest as little as possible in future infrastructure - they have dividends and bonuses to pay dont you know!
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liek homer said its all to do with privateisation.

South West Water is owned by a french company! not sure on other ares but i know SWW tend to copy wessex water in the way they run things for some strange reason
 
We've never had a hosepipe ban up here. This is another SE England issue that takes over the National Press every year, just the same as when there is snow in the Home Counties.
Why should we have to be bombarded with 10 minute headlines on the BBC National News and a Panorama "Special" when it is a local issue? If you build thousands of new homes and don't bother with the infrastructure you will get problems.
Incidentally our annual rainfall in the Carse of Gowrie is less than Kent, so it doesn't always rain in Scotland.
 
Played golf in the Algarve, Spain and the Arizona desert. Places that possibly get three egg cups of rain every year. Every single course I ever played was lush, green and beautifully manicured. Somebody got it right.
 
CliveW said:
We've never had a hosepipe ban up here. This is another SE England issue that takes over the National Press every year, just the same as when there is snow in the Home Counties.
Why should we have to be bombarded with 10 minute headlines on the BBC National News and a Panorama "Special" when it is a local issue? If you build thousands of new homes and don't bother with the infrastructure you will get problems.
Incidentally our annual rainfall in the Carse of Gowrie is less than Kent, so it doesn't always rain in Scotland.
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"Local issue"? London and the South East news is the "Beckhams" of the country - everything here should be headlines!

Anyway on some Sundays here, we have to watch the news and they insist on telling us how some local Scottish football teams called Celtic, Rangers and I think they call them Queen of the East or something, have got on. So we do hear about Scotland, although none of it means anything to us! :whistle:
 
connor said:
Homer I work for the utility companies and what I hate is how people Jump on our backs constantly. To upgrade all pipe work would cost 100s of millions of pounds. Also it's not just the pipe work which is the problem there is alot more to it.
As for the ban it's probably down to reservoir levels in your area and they are purely trying to protect them a bit. Although its rained it's been a mild and fairly dry winter. And before someone stars about water leaks in the road etc as they have watched panorama this evening don't lol. There is a lot more to it than they made out when it comes to repairing leaks half the problem is battling the highways agency to let us go and dig the road and put up lights etc
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why not spend some of the millions of ponds of profit to repair the system.
 
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