Help Needed !!!!

[robbest3offthetee]

Would anyone know if you incur a penalty whilst looking for your ball in the rough and leaves, and you kick it into a different position by accident, but then do not replace it where you thought it was, but play it from its new position, look forward to your views guys and gals....

 

[G1BB0]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

me thinks its a penalty

 

[chris661]

Even if you do replace it it is a penalty as far as I am aware.

 

[robbest3offthetee]

This happened to a mate of mine on the weekend in the cock o north,all level going up the 18th and one of the guys he is playing against does this and makes birdie after kicking his ball in the rough,scuffing his shoes through loose leaves,a argument ensues and they decide to consult the committee who side with the player who has kicked the ball, meaning a loss by 1 hole for my mate and his playing partner,surely this is not right!!!

 

[SammmeBee]

One shot penalty for kicking it - and (effectually) one more for not putting it back....

 

[stevelev]

From R&A

18-2a/21.3 Ball Moved Accidentally and Original Lie Altered; Player Places Ball in Wrong Place and Plays

Question:
A player accidentally steps on his ball in the rough and pushes it into the ground, incurring a penalty stroke under Rule 18-2a. The original lie of the ball was known and, instead of placing the ball in the nearest most similar lie within one club-length of the original lie as required by Rule 20-3b, the player places the ball almost two club-lengths away from the original lie and makes his next stroke.
In match play, it is clear that the player incurs the general penalty for a breach of Rule 18 or 20-3b, and loses the hole.

Answer:
In stroke play, the player incurs a total penalty of two strokes under Rule 18.
Rule 18 requires replacement of a ball moved accidentally. If some other Rule -- in this case Rule 20-3b -- requires a moved ball to be placed somewhere else, the player is considered to be in breach of Rule 18 if he places the ball other than as prescribed by the other Rule.

So you get a penalty for moving, and an additional penalty for not replacing (playing from wrong place)