HankMarvin
Tour Rookie
Tosh. If you turn Pro the you give up your amateur status Simples.
Do you have any idea how many young pretenders would want to turn Pro and still like to play club comps, your off your head.
Handicap?
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Tosh. If you turn Pro the you give up your amateur status Simples.
Do you have any idea how many young pretenders would want to turn Pro and still like to play club comps, your off your head.
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Sorry but as soon as you become "Pro" you relinquish Amatuer status and no longer are allowed to play in Amatuer comps - they shouldn't and aren't allowed anywhere near Amatuer Opens and rightly so
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
I think you are 100% right
chrisd
Major Champion
I was suprised that a team would include a PGA pro who shot, I believe 7 under. I am in no way complaining about it and was pleased that one of our team a 9 H/c (playing off 7) shot the round of his life at level par gross.
The best bit was at the meal afterwards where out team sat with another team and they were, apparently, colleagues working in IT - "have a guess what his job was before joining us" said one pointing across the table, "dunno" says I "he worked in the porn industry acting" was the answer I could only think to ask him whether, when he got the job, " did you have to work a week in hand?"
The best bit was at the meal afterwards where out team sat with another team and they were, apparently, colleagues working in IT - "have a guess what his job was before joining us" said one pointing across the table, "dunno" says I "he worked in the porn industry acting" was the answer I could only think to ask him whether, when he got the job, " did you have to work a week in hand?"
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Weirdly I thought I read on here some time ago a different answer to this
Could be i'm mistaken or the info at that time was wrong but definitely recall that a + golfer didn't get a 'better' handicap when off 3/4
bobmac
Major Champion
Like the Olympics ?
chrisd
Major Champion
The Olympics haven't been an amateur only competition for many years!
freddielong
Tour Winner
That we'll known amatuer sprinter Usain Bolt is also going.
bobmac
Major Champion
So for many years amateurs and professionals have been competing on the same team?
Quite right. Amateurs and pro's shouldn't mix......... just ask the England football team!! Iceland should be DQ'd!
chrisd
Major Champion
Your comment to L/Phil suggested that the Olympics is an amateur team comp
bobmac
Major Champion
I was merely giving an example where amateurs and professionals compete together
chrisd
Major Champion
Different sports have different rules.
I had no problem with him playing but assumed that he would be off say a + handicap given that everyone else didn't get their full allowance and imo that's a significant advantage for him to get his full allowance, proven as far as I'm concerned by his 7 under par off yellows that were well forward
srixon 1
Journeyman Pro
There is a scratch competition held at Dudsbury every year (Dorset Open) that pro's can play in. There is an amateur trophy and a pro trophy. However, whilst the amateur trophy can only be won by an amateur with the lowest gross (regardless of what the lowest pro score is), the pro trophy can be won by anybody. This year an amateur beat a pro in a playoff for the pro trophy which meant that he won both.
bobmac
Major Champion
I couldn't comment on specific events.
I was, as you pointed out, replying to Phil who said pros shouldn't play in amateur events.
Never mind. I'm out
Capella
Journeyman Pro
I don't know. I mean, sure, if you were to compete against a full time tour player, he would play way better than scratch on an average course of the normal tees. But I guess most of those guys wanting to compete in club comps are teaching pros that don't get to actually play and practice much more than a determined amateur. The playing ability test for teaching pros in Germany requires them to play a +6 round and I know many of them struggle to accomplish that on the first try. The label "pro" does not automatically convert them into under-par supergolfers.
To get a fair comparison, you'd really need to keep score of the events a specific pro played in over the year and derive a handicap from that. If you just say, pros play off +2 by default, you will still get massive variation.
To get a fair comparison, you'd really need to keep score of the events a specific pro played in over the year and derive a handicap from that. If you just say, pros play off +2 by default, you will still get massive variation.
Three
Tour Rookie
I've played in loads and loads of society-type comps which are predominantly amateur, but pros can play with a relevant handicap, oh, just like everybody else.
Once people get their head out their backside, they will see it's no issue at all.
Best moment was when I played with a society for the first time and some muppet was complaining beforehand , I shot 2 under that day and finished 8th out of 14 players.
The winner shot 46 points, the complaining guy shot 44 points and received a suitable amount of friendly abuse afterwards 😃😃
Once people get their head out their backside, they will see it's no issue at all.
Best moment was when I played with a society for the first time and some muppet was complaining beforehand , I shot 2 under that day and finished 8th out of 14 players.
The winner shot 46 points, the complaining guy shot 44 points and received a suitable amount of friendly abuse afterwards 😃😃
HankMarvin
Tour Rookie
Not to forget the recent Celtic result,getting beat from plumbers & taxi drivers
HankMarvin
Tour Rookie
Society events says it all, so it wasn't a club or official counting competition then.
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The OP hasn't said they/you shouldn't play in them, he's asking how handicaps for Pro's in the event work,
So, let's pretend you were the Pro in question, what handicap would you declare and being 3/4's for the comp, what would you play off?
