chrisd
Major Champion
In a comp today - 2 scores to count of 4, everyone off three quarter handicap, if a pro played, what would you expect him to be handicapped to?
Handicap?
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ArnoldArmChewer
Tour Winner
3/4 of nothing is nothing ?
chrisd
Major Champion
But a big advantage over a 12 handicap losing 3 shots?
ruff-driver
Journeyman Pro
ArnoldArmChewer
Tour Winner
Chris
A 2 h/c would still play off 2, whereas a 20 h/c loses 5 shots, it's just how the maths work.
That's life. The answer is not to three quarter anything. Play full handicap. That makes the single figure boys very grumpy though 😣
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
most comps like this ive played in the pro has played off +2 or similar
chrisd
Major Champion
We have a European Tour player from last year who sometimes plays in our swindles and uses + 4
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
seems fair
ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
If you're off +4 and have to play off 3/4 handicap does that mean you get a shot back and actually play off +3?
Why the assumption that all pros are off scratch or better? Ian Poulter turned pro whilst playing off 4.
Three
Tour Rookie
Correct.
Chrisd: there's Pros and there's Pros as you will no doubt know , whoever is in charge just needs to make a judgement based on the merit of each pro. Could be a kid who worked his butt off to get to 4 to do his PGA training, but could be a fringe European Tour player, there's probably 10 shots per round difference between the 2.
HankMarvin
Tour Rookie
Pro can't play in an amateur competition
Three
Tour Rookie
Grow up.
chrisd
Major Champion
It was a team comp at an away club, the pro is mainly a teaching pro but plays in a fair number of regional PGA events and in final Open Qualifying a couple of weeks back, no other pro's played afaik. His team won and I'm in no way upset but just wondered what the handicapping would normally be given the reduction.
I stress that my question is purely asked out of interest, we got 85 points and were out of the prizes
Three
Tour Rookie
I don't go along with the blanket statement that "Pros can't play in amateur comps" because there is a massive range of amateur comps, and of course there is a massive range of Pros' playing abilities.
However I don't think that it's right for a fully employed Pro, who is obviously a very good player, to be playing in a team and taking prizes in a predominantly amateur competition.
However, for example in Perranporth Open Week, all Pros are considered as +2 handicaps in all comps.
SammmeBee
Journeyman Pro
Who was the Pro?
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Pro's should only IMO play in the same comp as Amatuers in Pro Ams when each team has a Pro
Don't think they should be playing in a clearly Amatuer team comp
Don't think they should be playing in a clearly Amatuer team comp
HankMarvin
Tour Rookie
This makes sense
Three
Tour Rookie
As a generalisationI agree, but there are so many zillions of "Pros" now that times are different. It only needs a 4 handicap for a lad to be a "Pro", and whilst I believe that anyone who decides to be a pro should fully understand the consequences, there is room for flexibility in things like Open Weeks.
