got annoyed today..

[JustOne]

A hole behind was a group of 3 ladies and 2 holes behind (as the holes doubled back on themselves) a group of 3 had a go at us for slow play. It was completely unjustified as we ourselves were being held up by the group ahead of us. I hate slow play myself and all 4 of us were left confused.

Hitting groups in front, being called slow when you're held up... it wreaks of players going out too soon behind the group in front. 6-8 minutes is normal not when the group on the 1st fairway are just out of range. Sounds like you need a marshal for BOTH your courses.

............. mine needs one too! :thup:

 

[SGC001]

Ok, how would it appear I'm happy to injure someone, based on every factor at hand I played accordingly, this is not something that has happened before, nor I hope again, I have been hit with a ball in the neck an know how painful it can be, so under no circumstance would I wish to hit someone.
I played it as I saw it, I apologised, they could have been more gratious in declining my apology.
Which is why I'm annoyed.

You're commented "They had sufficient time on 10 but it pulled, these things happen. As for leaving 50 yards, there are just some holes at the minute where we would all be waiting for greens to clear before teeing off."

The these things happen comes across as a bit off hand and the implication on your comments on leaving 50 yards suggest you resent having to wait until it is safe to tee off. If you have to wait you wait.

It boils down to this for me: You hit on one hole when they were on the path closer to you than the green, you should have waited for them to clear the immediate vicinity. You then drove through them a 2nd time in the round, a 2nd time is more than unfortunate.

I've been hit by a golf ball, it was 1" from killing me. Playing when people are in range is dangerous.

Occasionally balls will get driven through groups, once I'd generally accept an apology; I wouldn't on any further occasion. In this instance I wouldn't accept it in the 1st case as you have described the situation. I believe you should have waited for the path to clear not just the green i.e. it wasn't a case of a shot of a lifetime or someone appearing form nowhere, it was within range and a choice you made to tee off before they had cleared the path. I class that as dangerous not unfortunate.

 

[JT77]

The first instance was a pull, which usually goes farther than a normal shot and was 20 yards left of the green and 40 yards left of target, believe I didn't wish to be there. If I was happy to injure someone, or wished to hit intentionally into the group I had sufficient opportunity to do so as we waited on most tee boxes. Under no circumstance did I wish to hit anyone, I think your comment of me intending to do so was unwarranted and misguided.

 

[gumbo84]

I think this is getting a little heated, i don't think that any golfer would EVER wish to hit someone on purpose. it's a fair comment to say that you should've waited for them to be clear but you didn't on this occasion. I think the important thing is to learn the lesson and just give them that extra little bit to get clear.

 

[papyt]

i think it was the red mist!!!! as you stated you had to wait on every tee box so you were getting more annoyed and couldn't wait and the old " i will knock one down there to speed them up" thought entered your head,been there plenty of times but never done it,i have been hit by balls at least 4 times over the years and it ain't nice but a dam site better than having a broken nose and jaw like the chap who did it to me at NORTH WALES GC last year,hit square in the back no shout then moaned when i hit it into the sea,nice straight right soon shut him up.

 

[Justman]

Hitting groups in front, being called slow when you're held up... it wreaks of players going out too soon behind the group in front. 6-8 minutes is normal not when the group on the 1st fairway are just out of range. Sounds like you need a marshal for BOTH your courses.

............. mine needs one too! :thup:

True! Probably not helped by the huge queue on the 1st tee. Going to play at a quieter time from now on I think and also not let it affect my game.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

You were in the wrong twice albeit unintentionally. Unfortunately they didn't know you from Adam and to be fair probably thought you were bang out of order especially the second time and so I'm not surprised you got a mouth full. It doesn't make their reaction right but I can see where they were coming from. The first one I'd have accpeted if you'd explained it was a pull but perhaps asked if you'd give us an extra 30 seconds. The second shot was just a bit rude even if it was a down wind Sunday best.

I can see why you would be annoyed. In your mind you didn't think you did anything deliberately wrong. I guess just learn from it, have a second thought about is it safe to hit before you pull the trigger and let it go and enjoy the next round more

 

[garyinderry]

how come you could not see the ball going to the green. if i hit a ball over a hill and cant see it i shout fore.

 

[JT77]

The 15th is straightish, if you hit it correctly it will go in the direction of the green, just doesn't normally reach it.

 

[SGC001]

The first instance was a pull, which usually goes farther than a normal shot and was 20 yards left of the green and 40 yards left of target, believe I didn't wish to be there. If I was happy to injure someone, or wished to hit intentionally into the group I had sufficient opportunity to do so as we waited on most tee boxes. Under no circumstance did I wish to hit anyone, I think your comment of me intending to do so was unwarranted and misguided.

Intending to injure is your turn of phrase not mine. I never said you intended to injure them or aimed at them. Your posts lead me to believe you could have injured them. I also didn't say you'd have been happy to injure them.

I said earlier ...No and I would have reported you. You're actions were dangerous and your attitude bemuses me, you seem happy to take the chance of injuring people.

I then posted something to the effect of you chose to hit when they were in range.

I stand by both postings. You were taking a risk that could've injured others, it was a choice you made to hit when they were close to the 10th green. It still appears that you are happy with your decision to have hit when they were on the path, as it was a pull and you didn't want it to go in that direction. I'm not happy you chose to hit when they were on that path, I think it was a mistake to have hit then. Your postings don't indicate that you see that as an error and I see that as potentially dangerous. I think it was a mistake (that never should have happened) to have hit then as it doesn't seem to be that big a miss and pulls can tend to go longer.

I'm not the only one posted who's concerned that you chose to hit at that point in time, with those players where they were. I think you need to allow for the possibility of certain misses occurring when considering whether it is safe to hit or not.

Everyone makes mistakes, hopefully people can learn from them.

 

[Airlie_Andy]

I must be in the minority but if I'm on a green that's 300 yards or more from the tee and someone drives the green they get a round of applause rather than abuse.

 

[JT77]

Surely being happy to the chance to injure someone is implying the same as being happy to injure them?
There is a mixed bag of responses, I respect everyones opinion, and yes it has given me something to think about.
Whilst walking to the fifteenth green I was crossing a the bridge, also used to cross the river for the fourth, a ball came thundering toward me and my playing partners, fortunately I was able to jump out the way, and nobody was hit, no shout, but the chap was less than 50 yards away, he apologised, we accepted it and went on our way, as said, these things happen.
I personally don't think there is a place for abuse on a golf course, I accept that I errd, and I tried to make amends, life goes on.
To err is human.....

 

[Mr_T]

I can see where both parties are coming from. You were obviously NOT intending to hurt them, I wouldn't say you played too early, you just misjudged what was a safe distance, the pull was obviously unintentional and considering you shot 76 (great shooting ) something that was not a regular occurence in the round, the second time if you'd never gone through the green I can appreciate why you thought it was safe to tee off, both times you didn't think you were putting anyone at risk, I can understand that and hence I can understand why you are annoyed.

I can also see why they were annoyed though, they don't know you so they don't know how far you hit it, hence they won't have known (paticularly the second time) that you don't normally hit it that far hence they will have thought you were being stupid and careless... maybe they could have been more gracious but putting myself in their shoes I understand why they weren't

Just use it as a learning experience, now you know it is possible to drive the green, so by waiting 30 seconds longer you can make sure you'll never get annoyed again

 

[SGC001]

Surely being happy to the chance to injure someone is implying the same as being happy to injure them?
There is a mixed bag of responses, I respect everyones opinion, and yes it has given me something to think about.
Whilst walking to the fifteenth green I was crossing a the bridge, also used to cross the river for the fourth, a ball came thundering toward me and my playing partners, fortunately I was able to jump out the way, and nobody was hit, no shout, but the chap was less than 50 yards away, he apologised, we accepted it and went on our way, as said, these things happen.
I personally don't think there is a place for abuse on a golf course, I accept that I errd, and I tried to make amends, life goes on.
To err is human.....

No it doesn't and I certainly never meant it that way. It just reflects that I think that maybe you need to ask yourself if that decision on 10 was sound or not.

I think you were right to offer an apology and it was unfortunate it couldn't be accepted (as I said earlier I wouldn't have accepted it, but all I would have done was told you that it wasn't accepted and that I would be reporting it).

I don't know what was said to you when the apology was refused, but with a ball going though twice and likely adrenaline affects I'd be inclined to cut them some slack and think of it as a situation best avoided in the future.

Whilst I may disagree with you about the soundness of the decision on 10, I hope you continue to enjoy your golf. It's not a nice feeling to nearly hit someone or nearly be hit be someone.

 

[JustOne]

i have been hit by balls at least 4 times over the years and it ain't nice but a dam site better than having a broken nose and jaw like the chap who did it to me at NORTH WALES GC last year,hit square in the back no shout then moaned when i hit it into the sea,nice straight right soon shut him up.

No offence but violent conduct isn't for bragging about on golf forums.

 

[Hendo007]

look at it from this perspective, If this was the your opening post what would you reply to it ?

So am a wee bit annoyed today, not at my golf as I managed to score a 67 ;-) but at some clown who was playing in group behind us. We get to the 10th green and hole out and then start walking back down the path to get to the 11th tee, Basically takes you back down the 10th fairway a bit, when this dude plays his shot to the green, shouts 4 and we all duck as this wayward shot comes screaming past us. Was a wee bit annoyed there as he could see we were clearly in range!! Anyway we carry on and think no more about it, however we get to the 15th and I manged to drive the green, 321yd par 4 and I go up to find am 8 foot from the pin, Setting myself up for the eagle put and just about to hit it when this ball comes zooming past me again, no shout this time !! Anyway am that annoyed I missed the bloody putt. So turns out it was the same clown that nearly hit us on the 10th, well he tried to apologise to me but i gave him a piece of my mind. No need for that, why didn't he just be patient, not like we were holding up play...

What would you have done in those circumstances ?

 

[papyt]

No offence but violent conduct isn't for bragging about on golf forums.

so you have been hit square in the back by a golf ball,the perpetrator hasn't shouted and moans when i hit his ball into ob,what should i have done ,A- SHOOK HIS HAND AND THANKED HIM,B-GAVE HIM A BRAND NEW PROV1,C-SAID NOTHING ,DONE NOTHING AND LET IT GO,D-DECKED HIM,answers on a post card please.

 

[richy]

i think it was the red mist!!!! as you stated you had to wait on every tee box so you were getting more annoyed and couldn't wait and the old " i will knock one down there to speed them up" thought entered your head,been there plenty of times but never done it,i have been hit by balls at least 4 times over the years and it ain't nice but a dam site better than having a broken nose and jaw like the chap who did it to me at NORTH WALES GC last year,hit square in the back no shout then moaned when i hit it into the sea,nice straight right soon shut him up.

You broke his nose and jaw with a single punch??? Your hands must be huge

 

[Ethan]

No offence but violent conduct isn't for bragging about on golf forums.

Nor is admitting a criminal offence, which he has also done. On a public forum. What a genius.

 

[rosecott]

i think it was the red mist!!!! as you stated you had to wait on every tee box so you were getting more annoyed and couldn't wait and the old " i will knock one down there to speed them up" thought entered your head,been there plenty of times but never done it,i have been hit by balls at least 4 times over the years and it ain't nice but a dam site better than having a broken nose and jaw like the chap who did it to me at NORTH WALES GC last year,hit square in the back no shout then moaned when i hit it into the sea,nice straight right soon shut him up.

Time for a new poll:

You've signed up for a GM meet. Which would you rather do?

A. Play in the group behind Papyt.
B. Play in the group ahead of Papyt.
C. Play in the group with Papyt.
D. Stay at home.