GM June Ed. Ball Shaping?

[SocketRocket]

Two articles in the latest Mag with suspect ball shaping info again??

Clubface at target swing along line to start the ball.

Turn the clubface over through impact for a Draw.

 

[virtuocity]

Hmmmm. One thing to publish opinions but when it's clear that ball flight is subject to laws then I'd expect better than to see bad advice in print.

 

[Val]

I quite liked the thought of hitting a target on the ball to encourage hitting from the inside.

 

[SocketRocket]

I quite liked the thought of hitting a target on the ball to encourage hitting from the inside.

I agree if it explained that this would create the ball curvature and not the initial direction. If the clubface pointed at the target you would miss left and right using the two examples.

 

[lyden]

I don't remember reading anything about turning the club face over for a draw?

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Two articles in the latest Mag with suspect ball shaping info again??

Clubface at target swing along line to start the ball.

Turn the clubface over through impact for a Draw.

Not read it yet but you'd think after all the fuss last year, they'd get it right this time

 

[SocketRocket]

I don't remember reading anything about turning the club face over for a draw?

Page 128 - My Draw Secrets.

The other is Page 112 - Left and Right.

 

[lyden]

I don't think the advice is that far off, i think you may be reading it wrong when he says aim right he means his body not his club face and you do close the club face as you swing from the inside to create a draw. Personally I just manipulate my swing to create a draw but this would work.

 

[SocketRocket]

I don't think the advice is that far off, i think you may be reading it wrong when he says aim right he means his body not his club face and you do close the club face as you swing from the inside to create a draw. Personally I just manipulate my swing to create a draw but this would work.

You cant close the clubface during the swing to create a draw, the timing required would be almost impossible to repeat. The ball takes off in the direction the clubface points and the swingpath right or left of this will create curvature of flight. If you aim the clubface at the target and swing to the right you will miss left.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I wonder what James makes of it. I'm expecting a raft of drawings and explanations. Come on James bring us the the magic crayon

 

[lyden]

Your partly right but you have to roll your arms to impart side spin, you should be aiming right of the target and roll your hands over the ball from the inside. Which is what he says ?? There really is no problem with his description in my eyes.

 

[Val]

You cant close the clubface during the swing to create a draw, the timing required would be almost impossible to repeat. The ball takes off in the direction the clubface points and the swingpath right or left of this will create curvature of flight. If you aim the clubface at the target and swing to the right you will miss left.

Neither article says thats what you do though?

If it does im missing it.

 

[One Planer]

Your partly right but you have to roll your arms to impart side spin, you should be aiming right of the target and roll your hands over the ball from the inside. Which is what he says ?? There really is no problem with his description in my eyes.

I don't like taking sides, but Brian is right.

The initail direction of the ball is determined by the club face position at impact. The spin is imparted by the swing path.

Face open but closed to swing path means the ball will start to the right the draw back to the left..... AKA a push draw.

If the clubface is open, but square to the path you get a push.

If the club face is open and open to the swing path you get a push fade.

Took me a while to get my head around hitting a draw with an open face but, turns out its correct (..... So long as the face is closed to the path)

 

[lyden]

If you didn't roll your arms you would hit a big push.

 

[SocketRocket]

Your partly right but you have to roll your arms to impart side spin, you should be aiming right of the target and roll your hands over the ball from the inside. Which is what he says ?? There really is no problem with his description in my eyes.

You dont seem to understand the ball flight laws. Side spin is created by the swingpath being to the right or left of the clubface direction, right for draw spin and to the left for fade spin. You should not roll your wrists in the swing, if you do you will create inconsistency. How can you know where the clubface will point at impact when rolling your wrists, the ball is only on the clubface for around 6 milliseconds.

I would suggest you read up on 'D' Plane and the 'New ball Flight Laws'

 

[SocketRocket]

If you didn't roll your arms you would hit a big push.

You will only hit a push if the clubface is pointing right of the target and your swingpath is also right. Rolling your wrists will send the ball anywhere, you need to keep your wrists square to the swingpath and cock and release them in an up and down manner.

 

[One Planer]

http://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/sh...ersus-NBFL&highlight=justone+ball+flight+laws

:thup:

 

[SocketRocket]

Neither article says thats what you do though?

If it does im missing it.

It's what Linden said in his post.

The article in the Mag on page 128 'My draw Secrets' also says "aim your body a little right and your right hand would rotate through the ball to create the whip your looking for"

 

[lyden]

I already have enough to think about on the golf course without adding this to the list. I've only been reading it for 5 mins and my heads hurting.

 

[SocketRocket]

I already have enough to think about on the golf course without adding this to the list. I've only been reading it for 5 mins and my heads hurting.

If you keep sending the ball into the trees you will have a lot to think about