Gloves

[rulefan]

Friction is caused by forces between two surfaces moving!

Not quite

So if this glove stops any movement then there is no friction surely as there is no movement to cause any.

If the two surfaces are not moving relative to each other that is called 'static friction', as opposed to 'kinetic friction' when they are moving relative to each other.

 

[clubchamp98]

Not quite


If the two surfaces are not moving relative to each other that is called 'static friction', as opposed to 'kinetic friction' when they are moving relative to each other.

Could they be sued under the trades description act then for this claim?

So what is the deffenition of zero friction , is it the complete opposite of what they are claiming.?

 

[BubbaP]

Could they be sued under the trades description act then for this claim?

So what is the deffenition of zero friction , is it the complete opposite of what they are claiming.?

I think they started out making/selling tees. The gloves came later.

 

[rulefan]

A value of 0 means there is no friction at all between the objects. This is only theoretically possible. All objects in the real world will have some friction when they touch each other.

 

[Colin L]

Not in an engine.

Friction is caused by forces between two surfaces moving!
So if this glove stops any movement then there is no friction surely as there is no movement to cause any.
I am scratching my head now.

How much friction are you creating when you scratch your head? You're thinking is moving frictionlessly round in a circle.

 

[Slab]

For two surfaces to move 'against' each without friction there must be a lubricating medium between them. That means they are not actually rubbing against each other.
I don't know what two surfaces the product title refers to but I can't see how being frictionless helps if it is referring to club and glove.
But if it is referring to glove and hand, then preventing blisters may be the objective.

Now that we're already in a tangent...

So when two forum members rub each other up and create friction (as demonstrated in countless threads) isn't the friction increased when a lubricating medium is added to their posts

 

[backwoodsman]

Not in an engine.

Friction is caused by forces between two surfaces moving!
So if this glove stops any movement then there is no friction surely as there is no movement to cause any.
I am scratching my head now.

Think of friction more as a resistance to movement rather than being caused by movement. If the resistance to movement (friction) is greater than a force which would be a cause of movement, then the object won't move. And a swinging golf club is subject to forces which would cause it to move. So you need something with friction to resist that movement.

 

[backwoodsman]

Now that we're already in a tangent...

So when two forum members rub each other up and create friction (as demonstrated in countless threads) isn't the friction increased when a lubricating medium is added to their posts

Nah, the lubricant just allows the rubbing to happen more easily/quickly ...

 

[clubchamp98]

Think of friction more as a resistance to movement rather than being caused by movement. If the resistance to movement (friction) is greater than a force which would be a cause of movement, then the object won't move. And a swinging golf club is subject to forces which would cause it to move. So you need something with friction to resist that movement.

So their claim of a zero friction glove is none sense.

 

[Colin L]

So their claim of a zero friction glove is none sense.

I did give a little hint of that in post #13.

 

[clubchamp98]

I did give a little hint of that in post #13.

Yes another school day.
To be fair though last time I did friction was in the 70s in school.

 

[Colin L]

Yes another school day.
To be fair though last time I did friction was in the 70s in school.

Let's have a "when I were a lad" competition. I last studied friction in the 60s.

 

[need_my_wedge]

Am l allowed to draw a line across my golf glove to remind me of the line which the club should sit in my hand?

I have a tendency to let my grip "wander" - in that in, say, a month's time I'll be holding the club differently to what l do today but l will still be convinced that it's not moved and my grip is still correct. Drawing the line on the glove would prevent this - but is it within the rules?

Ta

Back to the original question, I am in the middle of a grip change, and just last week had three lines drawn on a glove to help me position the grip, and my right hand to stop me slipping back into my old grip. I was then told that the glove couldn't be worn in competition.

I don't believe so. Discussed here with a response from the USGA;

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/721657-rules-question/

And here's a direct link to the Rules of Golf;

https://www.randa.org/Rules-of-Golf/Appendices/Appendix-IV-DEVICES-AND-OTHER-EQUIPMENT/2-Gloves

I would say that the line is no more than a visual aid, so is fine, as per the other forum's conversation. Tom Watson mentions it in his book "The Timeless Swing".

The link above seems to suggest it can be....

A “plain” glove must not incorporate:

• features, other than visual aids, designed to assist the player in placing his hands in a consistent and/or specific position on the grip;

I'd have to agree with Blue that a sharpie line is nothing more than a visual aid. Having said that, they are fixed reference points to ensure the hands are placed in a specific position each time and could be classed as a feature.

I guess the question is whether a line is a visual aid, or a feature?

 

[clubchamp98]

Back to the original question, I am in the middle of a grip change, and just last week had three lines drawn on a glove to help me position the grip, and my right hand to stop me slipping back into my old grip. I was then told that the glove couldn't be worn in competition.





The link above seems to suggest it can be....



I'd have to agree with Blue that a sharpie line is nothing more than a visual aid. Having said that, they are fixed reference points to ensure the hands are placed in a specific position each time and could be classed as a feature.

I guess the question is whether a line is a visual aid, or a feature?

A feature would be something built into the glove!
A line is something you draw to help you visually.
it dosnt do anything physical to help you.

What’s the difference to putting a line on the ball to help lining up?

 

[duncan mackie]

Back to the original question, I am in the middle of a grip change, and just last week had three lines drawn on a glove to help me position the grip, and my right hand to stop me slipping back into my old grip. I was then told that the glove couldn't be worn in competition.





The link above seems to suggest it can be....



I'd have to agree with Blue that a sharpie line is nothing more than a visual aid. Having said that, they are fixed reference points to ensure the hands are placed in a specific position each time and could be classed as a feature.

I guess the question is whether a line is a visual aid, or a feature?

Whilst I can see how there was a little misunderstanding initially in the post, the answer was clarified.

So, in your case, the only outstanding question would seem to be who incorrectly advised you regarding use of the marked glove in competitions.