Ge 2017

Short term yes. But long term for the good of society I'd argue it's a good thing.

Spot on.

Brexit aside, internally the UK needs to rebalance away from big business govt but without far left tendencies. A softer Labour and a softer Tory would be wonderful. Both parties will have to head towards the centre ground if they are to achieve a working majority next time around.
 
Short term yes. But long term for the good of society I'd argue it's a good thing.

Only if you have the caliber of politician and the desired manifesto to fix it, I don't think there's either

  • The UK population is split in half over its politics and direction
  • The UK population is split in half over its membership of the EU
  • Scotlands population is split in half over its membership of the UK

(& no, a few percentile either way does not make a meaningful majority on any of the above)

The politicians have failed again and again to provide what society wants, and fear alone (of the other side getting their way) prevents everyone just staying at home in order to get that particular message across. Such that politicians actually think a vote 'for' them is actually a vote for their policy rather than a vote to prevent someone else's policy

All hail the Divided Kingdom!
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I'm not surprised this morning after brexit - instability - just what we dont want

Instability is what we are going to have for some time

Grey vote for brexit young vote for Labour
 
Sky reporting TM not going to resign, I reckon we'll see another u-turn.
 
So what cost the Tories the overriding majority to take us stronger when negotiating Brexit. Her words.

The Brexit vote was split before the GE, what made her think that would change.

Especially when she would not take part in live discussions with other party leaders.

Think the latest terrorist attacks cost her, The fact as Home Secretary she cut policing levels have hurt her and the party.
 
I am not a big politics follower (probably been exposed to more of it lately through the golf forum!)
Thought would look back over the last few.

Totally appreciate that May and co made a major tactical blunder here, but here you go.


2005

L 355 seats 35.2% of pop vote
C 198 seats


2010

C 306 seats 36.1% of pop vote
L 258 seats


2015

C 330 seats 36.9% of pop vote
L 232


2017 (as of now)

C 317 seats 42.4% of pop vote
L 261 seats


Not sure what this is saying other than maybe we need to reform the way we do elections (and that won't happen). Or as some others said, maybe we need a credible centre ground option.

Ho hum, interesting times yet again.
 
I am not a big politics follower (probably been exposed to more of it lately through the golf forum!)
Thought would look back over the last few.

Totally appreciate that May and co made a major tactical blunder here, but here you go.


2005

L 355 seats 35.2% of pop vote
C 198 seats


2010

C 306 seats 36.1% of pop vote
L 258 seats


2015

C 330 seats 36.9% of pop vote
L 232


2017 (as of now)

C 317 seats 42.4% of pop vote
L 261 seats


Not sure what this is saying other than maybe we need to reform the way we do elections (and that won't happen). Or as some others said, maybe we need a credible centre ground option.

Ho hum, interesting times yet again.

Westminster needs root and branch reform......it is stuck in a 1950's time lock.
 
Oh no!!!!!

I've just heard that Mrs May is going to the Palace at 12.30 - we don't need a strong and stable team, we need a centre back, goalkeeper and central midfielder. Oh Big Sam please don't leave!
 
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