Foreign Travel 2021

I don't understand this "it's not worth the risk catching it and bringing it back". We are the one of the worst countries in the world for infections and deaths. You are safer in turkey than you are here.

As soon as its allowed I'm prepared to go wherever I can. I was hoping to get to the alps before the snow disappears but I'm not holding my breath

Surely the risk is being sat on a plane for 3 to 5 hours each way?
 
Surely the risk is being sat on a plane for 3 to 5 hours each way?
Planes have possitve pressure ventilation. In English it means your dirty covid breath goes straight up into the system (filtered). That doesn't eliminate the risk of surfaces though. However, most likely you'll need a negative test to travel anyway.
I'm not saying it's risk free but compared to the risks I take on a daily basis at work it's a risk worth taking
 
I must admit I agree, but the area seems well catered for on the golf front.

You are right there, there are loads of course's around in a short radius , Lindrick is not too far away as well , always seemed to have a good reputation but never been myself.
I think within 8 miles from home i have a choice of 6 or 7 , a mix of muni and members clubs.
 
I'm hoping to venture north of the border during mid to late summer and see my little sister. Apparently she has a list of jobs for me.
So fix the shelf in the morning, golf in the afternoon somewhere and a fish supper for tea. Braw
 
Planes have possitve pressure ventilation. In English it means your dirty covid breath goes straight up into the system (filtered). That doesn't eliminate the risk of surfaces though. However, most likely you'll need a negative test to travel anyway.
I'm not saying it's risk free but compared to the risks I take on a daily basis at work it's a risk worth taking

For sure. All those tennis players flying to the Aussie open, in their bubbles, negative test before the flight, and now isolating in hotels for 14 days. 72 of them. Because 4 people on 3 separate flights had covid by the time they got to Aus, despite a negative test before flying. Safe as.
Bung in about 10k people a day going through the airport, security queues, waiting lounges, security and passport control at the other end, taxis, restaurants, toilets. Yep, safe as. Can't see how flying isn't safer than Asda.
 
For sure. All those tennis players flying to the Aussie open, in their bubbles, negative test before the flight, and now isolating in hotels for 14 days. 72 of them. Because 4 people on 3 separate flights had covid by the time they got to Aus, despite a negative test before flying. Safe as.
Bung in about 10k people a day going through the airport, security queues, waiting lounges, security and passport control at the other end, taxis, restaurants, toilets. Yep, safe as. Can't see how flying isn't safer than Asda.

I'll take my chances with a plane of tested people in a filtered box over a trip to the supermarket or a day at work surrounded by people that spend their day mixing with the public
 
Got a week in Rhodes booked in October, took a bit of a gamble booking it but wanted to get in before prices went crazy later on if/when things start moving again. I imagibe by then there will be a vaccine passport/ negative airport test type thing going on
 
I don't understand this "it's not worth the risk catching it and bringing it back". We are the one of the worst countries in the world for infections and deaths. You are safer in turkey than you are here.

As soon as its allowed I'm prepared to go wherever I can. I was hoping to get to the alps before the snow disappears but I'm not holding my breath
I agree that quote is a bit odd, and I agree things are pretty grim here in the UK. I would suggest though (as others have) that comparing countries is not a perfect science. For example, from the stats that are recorded:

-Relative to population UK has had about 1.9 times the cases than Turkey
-Relative to population UK has done about 3 times as many tests than Turkey
How significant is that, I've no idea.

-Relative to population UK has had 5 times as many deaths than Turkey

This sort of stat I struggle with. If the UK has had roughly double the cases then why not double the deaths. I don't think the virus knows which country it is in. Are healthcare provisions wildly different, are different virus mutations more prevalent, is the general Turk population more resilient to the virus, are the numbers recorded not accurate.
Who knows, not I.
But this sort of stuff leads me to be less confident than yourself. Fair play to you.
 
I don't understand this "it's not worth the risk catching it and bringing it back". We are the one of the worst countries in the world for infections and deaths. You are safer in turkey than you are here.

As soon as its allowed I'm prepared to go wherever I can. I was hoping to get to the alps before the snow disappears but I'm not holding my breath

Alps? This ski season. No chance.

The UK may be pretty bad, but going through an airport, sitting on a plane and then through another airport at the other end adds a whole lot more risk. Turkey may be safer ince you get there, depending on who else is there and where they came from, but you have to get there and back as well. I wouldn't get your suitcase out for a while yet.
 
Alps? This ski season. No chance.

The UK may be pretty bad, but going through an airport, sitting on a plane and then through another airport at the other end adds a whole lot more risk. Turkey may be safer ince you get there, depending on who else is there and where they came from, but you have to get there and back as well. I wouldn't get your suitcase out for a while yet.
Yeh I've accepted the fact I won't be skiing this Year. They've have so much snow this year already. Just hoping my trip to gleneagles in May is still going to happen
 
I agree that quote is a bit odd, and I agree things are pretty grim here in the UK. I would suggest though (as others have) that comparing countries is not a perfect science. For example, from the stats that are recorded:

-Relative to population UK has had about 1.9 times the cases than Turkey
-Relative to population UK has done about 3 times as many tests than Turkey
How significant is that, I've no idea.

-Relative to population UK has had 5 times as many deaths than Turkey

This sort of stat I struggle with. If the UK has had roughly double the cases then why not double the deaths. I don't think the virus knows which country it is in. Are healthcare provisions wildly different, are different virus mutations more prevalent, is the general Turk population more resilient to the virus, are the numbers recorded not accurate.
Who knows, not I.
But this sort of stuff leads me to be less confident than yourself. Fair play to you.

Age distribution of the population, probably. Turkey has <10% of population over age 65, UK has 18%. Even bigger difference in older age groups.
 
Age distribution of the population, probably. Turkey has <10% of population over age 65, UK has 18%. Even bigger difference in older age groups.
Yep that's plausible ?
Maybe I'm missing it but a shame this sort of stuff isn't more prevalent in the media rather than the obsession with headline numbers.
 
Speaking to family in Australia, they're expecting their borders to remain closed to international travellers (except Kiwis) for the rest of 2021.

So looks like my family trip to Oz will be 2022 (was supposed to go last July/August).

Can't see Europe being an option this summer either; we're looking at UK holidays this year.
 
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