Ferguson leaving Man Utd

[In_The_Rough]

Theyd have to , there is going to be transition time & utd might lose a few games more the 1st year .. but he is the right man for the job & that club IMO

Maybe, I have my doubts that he will do well there but only time will tell. He certainly will be under more pressure than he was at Everton. Seems a long time though 6 years I would have thought a 3 or 4 year to be extended depending on how it is going. To be hopes he does well as he is not going to be cheap to get rid if he does flop

 

[Sharktooth]

Can you imagine the clauses in the contract though? They say six years, could be out on his bum in one but get paid for four. Stupid money and attitudes these days.

 

[In_The_Rough]

Can you imagine the clauses in the contract though? They say six years, could be out on his bum in one but get paid for four. Stupid money and attitudes these days.[/QUOTE

As I say I would be very surprised it was a 6 year contract and that's it must be retrictions in it surely.

 

[Andy808]

Did it not take fergie 6 years to win a trophy perhaps that is why Moyes have been given a contract that length as he does not have much experience in the trophy department

I'd give him 6 MONTHS if it's not working straight off the bat.
It's not like he's inheriting an up and coming team is it. Scholes and Giggs are over the hill, De Gea is a worry every time he plays, Rooney wants out (maybe he already knew who was on the way) and there are a few other players who will want out now that SAF is not in charge.
Moyes isn't a bad manager but he's no where near good enough for that position.

Mourinho, Klopp, Guadiola? Nope Moyes is the man to take ManU forward. HAHAHA

 

[bladeplayer]

Maybe, I have my doubts that he will do well there but only time will tell. He certainly will be under more pressure than he was at Everton. Seems a long time though 6 years I would have thought a 3 or 4 year to be extended depending on how it is going. To be hopes he does well as he is not going to be cheap to get rid if he does flop

ala Pardew at Newcastle with his 8 years , I think a big bonus for DM is that It took fergie a while to win & build a team of his own,
I just hope he doesn't come robbing Jags & bainsey , id hope he has a good enough relationship with Bill Kenwright to do that ..

Contracts mean very little now anyhow

 

[Andy808]

ala Pardew at Newcastle with his 8 years , I think a big bonus for DM is that It took fergie a while to win & build a team of his own,
I just hope he doesn't come robbing Jags & bainsey , id hope he has a good enough relationship with Bill Kenwright to do that ..

Contracts mean very little now anyhow

I'm sure he'll be after Fellaini too.

 

[cookelad]

ala Pardew at Newcastle with his 8 years , I think a big bonus for DM is that It took fergie a while to win & build a team of his own,
I just hope he doesn't come robbing Jags & bainsey , id hope he has a good enough relationship with Bill Kenwright to do that ..

Contracts mean very little now anyhow

I suspect Baines has already got his bags packed!

 

[In_The_Rough]

ala Pardew at Newcastle with his 8 years , I think a big bonus for DM is that It took fergie a while to win & build a team of his own,
I just hope he doesn't come robbing Jags & bainsey , id hope he has a good enough relationship with Bill Kenwright to do that ..

Contracts mean very little now anyhow

Dont include NFC they are a circus on their own with Mike Ashley running it. Cant think of another manager that has been given that length of contract from the off. If he thinks the players you mention will improve Utd he will go for them, no friends in Football i'm afraid. Anyway if he buys them they will be replaceable just like most players are things move on. If it were me I would be more worried over who the next manager is going to be given a few of the names that have been thrown around.

 

[In_The_Rough]

I'd give him 6 MONTHS if it's not working straight off the bat.
It's not like he's inheriting an up and coming team is it. Scholes and Giggs are over the hill, De Gea is a worry every time he plays, Rooney wants out (maybe he already knew who was on the way) and there are a few other players who will want out now that SAF is not in charge.
Moyes isn't a bad manager but he's no where near good enough for that position.

Mourinho, Klopp, Guadiola? Nope Moyes is the man to take ManU forward. HAHAHA

Take it your not a fan of Moyes then? Good point about Rooney you could well be onto something there, all I know is that Moyes and Rooney will not have a workable relationship so can deffo see him moving on.

 

[Junior]

Sad, sad day. Man U have lost their manager who has buggered up 17 champions league campaigns over the last 20 odd years, who fluked one with a great last 3 minutes, and the other because John Terry slipped over after a biblical rainstorm. Despite getting through countless group stages and many finals, semis and quarter finals.

Discuss.

I'll be back tomorrow.........if the internet hasn't broke.

Ni-night.

Your right mate, Europe has been his achillies heel, we have tripped over the line twice, and should have won it more. The treble winning side of 99 could have pushed on SAF tried to do the right thing in making big signings (Veron , Van Nistlerooy) but they didn't make us invincible in Europe like most thought they would.

You need luck a bit of luck in Europe and in football in general........ if Mark Robins had not bagged that goal in the FA cup against Forest SAF would not even have lasted the 1990 season.

 

[Andy808]

Take it your not a fan of Moyes then? Good point about Rooney you could well be onto something there, all I know is that Moyes and Rooney will not have a workable relationship so can deffo see him moving on.

It's not that I'm not a fan, although I'm not, I just don't think he has what it takes. SAF is leaving while on top that's for certain but he's not leaving the team in good shape which is the most important factor. The team has already had the overhaul started but it's a long way from being complete and that is Moyes' first big problem.
I don't think he has the tactics to take on the best in Europe in the CL even if he gets the players he want and needs.

 

[In_The_Rough]

It's not that I'm not a fan, although I'm not, I just don't think he has what it takes. SAF is leaving while on top that's for certain but he's not leaving the team in good shape which is the most important factor. The team has already had the overhaul started but it's a long way from being complete and that is Moyes' first big problem.
I don't think he has the tactics to take on the best in Europe in the CL even if he gets the players he want and needs.

I agree with you mate on Moyes I have been debating with others on here the past couple of days. We may be proved wrong in which case I will say fair play but if I were a Utd fan I would not be too pleased with his appointment.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Moyes isn't a bad manager but he's no where near good enough for that position.

Mourinho, Klopp, Guadiola? Nope Moyes is the man to take ManU forward. HAHAHA

And so I take it that you know more about football management than SAF then?

 

[Fish]

Your right mate, Europe has been his achillies heel, we have tripped over the line twice, and should have won it more. The treble winning side of 99 could have pushed on SAF tried to do the right thing in making big signings (Veron , Van Nistlerooy) but they didn't make us invincible in Europe like most thought they would.

You need luck a bit of luck in Europe and in football in general........ if Mark Robins had not bagged that goal in the FA cup against Forest SAF would not even have lasted the 1990 season.

It took 2 stabs for them to beat Crystal Palace

 

[Andy808]

And so I take it that you know more about football management than SAF then?

Sorry didn't realise I couldn't have an opinion or do I have to start the sentence with IMO?

 

[In_The_Rough]

Who signed Bebe and Djemba Djemba

 

[pbrown7582]

It took 2 stabs for them to beat Crystal Palace

Yeah and so it began, :whoo: but for that goal at forest in round 3 SAF would of been sacked and things would of been a whole lot different!

 

[Pin-seeker]

Who signed Bebe and Djemba Djemba

Not to mention the long list of dodgy keepers

 

[In_The_Rough]

Not to mention the long list of dodgy keepers

Massimo Taibi. Mark Bosnich every coke dealer in Manchester was unhappy when he went. Barthez. Your right there has been a few

 

[Papas1982]

Of course Fergie made bad signings. He was there for quarter if a decade. The only people that try to knock him are envious fans. There's not a supporter in the land that would t have loved him as manager. All this be was due to be sacked. Charltons come out and said that was nonsense. There was a transition happening when he took over much like at Arsenal now. Agreed he could have done better in Europe. But to win any cup comp takes luck. Look at the league cup this year. Nobody would of predicted them too. Or Chelsea winning last years champs league? Or Liverppol in Istanbul. Lucky to get last olympiakos. IMHO he is without doubt the greatest of all time. All the others that will be mentioned had better periods than him, but none had to create new teams they all had good eras. Much like Barca now, how will they be in 3 years when there main squad has changed?