Ferguson leaving Man Utd

I loved Taibi, let a cracking daisy cutter from Le Tiss through his legs lol. Barthez had credentials to be fair. Bosnich was an accident to happen.

Barthez used to make some great saves in a match then just drop a total howler.I had this debate with a bloke at work at the time who followed Utd and told him it is no use keep making great saves to throw it all away by making massive gaffs
 
Barthez used to make some great saves in a match then just drop a total howler.I had this debate with a bloke at work at the time who followed Utd and told him it is no use keep making great saves to throw it all away by making massive gaffs


Like standing by claiming offside and watching Di Canio walk the ball in! :(
 
Like standing by claiming offside and watching Di Canio walk the ball in! :(

Yes like that. The 2 games I remember most was a CL game against Deportivo when Diego Tristan robbed the ball off him about 20 yards outside the penalty area:) and the other was a game at Highbury against your best mate Wengers Arsenal when he gifted 2 to Terry Henry
 
Yes like that. The 2 games I remember most was a CL game against Deportivo when Diego Tristan robbed the ball off him about 20 yards outside the penalty area:) and the other was a game at Highbury against your best mate Wengers Arsenal when he gifted 2 to Terry Henry

Yeah the Henry was tops. I agree Barthez was poor, just saying that when he signed nobody thought it was a bad idea. I think they've got a star now. De Gea still gets pushed a bit, but I think he gets less support that other keepers coz refs think he's weak. He's defo worth keepping, in my humble opinion. Baines and felaini added to the current team could be an excellent idea. And IF they were to get Ronaldo, I'd say the Glazers could pick the team and still win.
 
Yeah the Henry was tops. I agree Barthez was poor, just saying that when he signed nobody thought it was a bad idea. I think they've got a star now. De Gea still gets pushed a bit, but I think he gets less support that other keepers coz refs think he's weak. He's defo worth keepping, in my humble opinion. Baines and felaini added to the current team could be an excellent idea. And IF they were to get Ronaldo, I'd say the Glazers could pick the team and still win.

De Gea has provided worthy and will only get better, Baines would be a good addition not quite as convinced with Fellanini, and if ronaldo comes there won't be a lot of cash left over, as already spent a fair chunk on Zaha.
 
De gea great shot stopper poor in the air but he has improved. I know Madrid have been looking at him as a replacement for Iker. Forgot about Zaha dont know much about him. With regard to Baines and Ron though do you not think they should be looking at younger players as the team is knocking on a bit
 
De gea great shot stopper poor in the air but he has improved. I know Madrid have been looking at him as a replacement for Iker. Forgot about Zaha dont know much about him. With regard to Baines and Ron though do you not think they should be looking at younger players as the team is knocking on a bit

Baines may be pointless. Gotta take a punt on fabio or buttner sooner or later. I'd rate Dea Gea, smalling, jones, cleverly, kagawa, wellbeck, Powell, wellbeck and Hernandez as a better collection of young (not youth) players than any club in the league. Rooney, RVP, Evra, Vidic, Rio and Carrick are hardly over hill. Not too mention Young, Nani and Valencia. Christ when you think of it, is that really the worst (as some say) squad to win the league?? As for Ronaldo, I'd sign him all day long. Loads of years left in the tank and simply too good to turn down. Felaini although having a good goalscoring season is a destroyer by trade and I think that's what UTd are missing.
 
De Gea as I said earlier.Jones potentially very good indeed. Smalling,Cleverly,Welbeck I do not rate.Kagawa jury is still out on him first season and all. Powell I have no idea about. Hernandez is a quality goal getter.RVP nuff said, Rooney has lost interest and fitness IMO, Evra and Vidic quality but will need replacing sooner rather than later, Rio has always been overated IMO good but not as good as what they crack him up to be and again will soon need replacing, Carrick do not rate at all. Young is o.k, Nani can be world class or sunday league depending what mood he is in, Valencia is good but has had a poor season. I would say it is the worst to win it for quite a while yes but definitely not the worst
 
De Gea as I said earlier.Jones potentially very good indeed. Smalling,Cleverly,Welbeck I do not rate.Kagawa jury is still out on him first season and all. Powell I have no idea about. Hernandez is a quality goal getter.RVP nuff said, Rooney has lost interest and fitness IMO, Evra and Vidic quality but will need replacing sooner rather than later, Rio has always been overated IMO good but not as good as what they crack him up to be and again will soon need replacing, Carrick do not rate at all. Young is o.k, Nani can be world class or sunday league depending what mood he is in, Valencia is good but has had a poor season. I would say it is the worst to win it for quite a while yes but definitely not the worst

Agree with all that apart from Young being OK. He's a waste of snap. Lets be honest would Ronaldo want to leave Madrid to come back to Manc?? he left for a reason.
 
I think carrick is class, because he isn't all rush rush people don't rate him. There's a reason scholesy was played less towards the end. Carrick was controlling games, he's the best English passer about at the moment. The fact that UTDs defence was so much better 2nd half of season was because rio played more games. Fans don't seem to like him, but all pundits rate him. Twice the player terry was, rio can play with any centre back and work
 
Agree with all that apart from Young being OK. He's a waste of snap. Lets be honest would Ronaldo want to leave Madrid to come back to Manc?? he left for a reason.

Cheers. Ronaldo has been unhappy with his lot in Madrid for a good few months now around the same time the spanish government brough in new tax laws which was an unfortunate coincidence:smirk: he will go where is pay packet is the biggest mate and if he can wangle himself better tax breaks at Utd than anywhere else that is where he will go, he really is the stereotype modern football mercenary. He left as he though the grass was greener at Madrid which it was for a few years as foreign workers in Spain that were classed as people with unique talents or something like that paid a silly amount of tax on their wages around 15% I think so you do that on his rumoured £250,000 per week wage and you can see why he jumped.
 
Cheers. Ronaldo has been unhappy with his lot in Madrid for a good few months now around the same time the spanish government brough in new tax laws which was an unfortunate coincidence:smirk: he will go where is pay packet is the biggest mate and if he can wangle himself better tax breaks at Utd than anywhere else that is where he will go, he really is the stereotype modern football mercenary. He left as he though the grass was greener at Madrid which it was for a few years as foreign workers in Spain that were classed as people with unique talents or something like that paid a silly amount of tax on their wages around 15% I think so you do that on his rumoured £250,000 per week wage and you can see why he jumped.

Thats a bit cynical, whilst I agree he'll leave for better money. Most Europeans do dream of playing for madrid. Granted he won't have gone there for peanuts. But if money is his only desire hell end up at PSG. I reckon an outside shout for chelski maybe, him and mourinho are still chummy so if the special one returns I'd not be shocked to see the winker follow. That said, whatever he's motives are I'd be happy if he was in the Orem coz his talent is second to none, ok it probably is. But his still head n shoulders above everyone but the little Argie!
 
Your right mate, Europe has been his achillies heel, we have tripped over the line twice, and should have won it more. The treble winning side of 99 could have pushed on SAF tried to do the right thing in making big signings (Veron , Van Nistlerooy) but they didn't make us invincible in Europe like most thought they would.

You need luck a bit of luck in Europe and in football in general........ if Mark Robins had not bagged that goal in the FA cup against Forest SAF would not even have lasted the 1990 season.

I know mate, you can't deny his domestic success, but I do think Man U should have won about 6 champs leagues under Ferguson with the teams he had, whether Barcelona were around or not.

Don't get me wrong on his day he was a whinging, bullying sod and much more, but he was a driven winner. As I said, if he would have been any one of our clubs managers we would have loved him.

I still remember being at OT in 1990 singing Fergie must stay, when he was getting hell from 80-odd percent of your support that day. That didn't work out as we would have thought ........

I think to criticise him for some bad buys over 25 years is a moot point though (not you, I know) as every manager has made big mistakes, but it's about what you do with the good buys, and what you win overall that counts.
 
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Thats a bit cynical, whilst I agree he'll leave for better money. Most Europeans do dream of playing for madrid. Granted he won't have gone there for peanuts. But if money is his only desire hell end up at PSG. I reckon an outside shout for chelski maybe, him and mourinho are still chummy so if the special one returns I'd not be shocked to see the winker follow. That said, whatever he's motives are I'd be happy if he was in the Orem coz his talent is second to none, ok it probably is. But his still head n shoulders above everyone but the little Argie!

No mate he did not go there for peanuts around £12 million a year wages plus image rights on every shirt they sell with his name on the back. Soon as the Spanish brought in these austerity measures where he was now going to be paying around 50% tax on his earnings then he decides he is unhappy and wants out so forgive me for being a bit cynical. Nobody is doubting his ability as you say better than everyone else bar one. The tax situation over here is now better than Spain so he can afford to earn less and be better off so if it is about money then it is not a done deal he will go to PSG, Chelsel pay silly wages as well, as do Utd in certain cases RVP is on £200k a week is he not. So either of those 2 is an option should he depart Madrid
 
No mate he did not go there for peanuts around £12 million a year wages plus image rights on every shirt they sell with his name on the back. Soon as the Spanish brought in these austerity measures where he was now going to be paying around 50% tax on his earnings then he decides he is unhappy and wants out so forgive me for being a bit cynical. Nobody is doubting his ability as you say better than everyone else bar one. The tax situation over here is now better than Spain so he can afford to earn less and be better off so if it is about money then it is not a done deal he will go to PSG, Chelsel pay silly wages as well, as do Utd in certain cases RVP is on £200k a week is he not. So either of those 2 is an option should he depart Madrid
I never said he went there for peanuts, but for me a mercenary in football terms is the likes of Chris samba taking 100k at a useless team coz he's chasing money. I know footballers are made obscene amounts go cash but do you think he's not worth 200k? Madrid could just up his wages to continue his net but they've not offered that. Messi has just be bumped up for that exact reason, or is he a mercenary too for making them pay more? If he goes to PSG then granted he's proven your point because the French league is not as compete be as rather English, German or Spanish. But leaving Madrid for a "fair" wage isn't a bad thing.
 
I still remember being at OT in 1990 singing Fergie must stay, when he was getting hell from 80-odd percent of your support that day. That didn't work out as we would have thought ........
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Thanks LB glad you saw the light we never :thup: :lol:

i will hold my hand up as being one of those 80%...

how wrong can you be!
 
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