jp5
Q-School Graduate
Unfortunately the caddy's player weren't interested in watching it!
Wouldn't have happened if Hull had remained where she was.
Can only assume Hull walking off was taken to mean the putt was good - by the American and referee.
Fair Play?
- Thread starter JARS
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Unfortunately the caddy's player weren't interested in watching it!
Wouldn't have happened if Hull had remained where she was.
Can only assume Hull walking off was taken to mean the putt was good - by the American and referee.
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Deleted member 15344
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Can never assume though surely ? Always have to take the spoken word or a clear action
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Pettersens doesn't though. Moves faster than you do when last orders called.
Bully - think it's time I reported you !
Troymcclure
Medal Winner
I'm surprised anyone thinks Charley Hull did anything wrong. I think her body language walking towards her partner suggested she considered it an obvious gimmee. But probably expected her senior partner to make the call.
If the rules official asked if she'd conceded the putt and she said no, then that's the truth. She would hardly add that she couldn't believe her partner wanted to see it in.
The question for me is, did Pettersen actually want to see the putt taken or did she take advantage of Lee's naivety in picking up.
Watching the footage afterwards it seemed to me that everyone in the European camp wanted to reverse the decision but were too scared to go against the effing and blinding Pettersen
If the rules official asked if she'd conceded the putt and she said no, then that's the truth. She would hardly add that she couldn't believe her partner wanted to see it in.
The question for me is, did Pettersen actually want to see the putt taken or did she take advantage of Lee's naivety in picking up.
Watching the footage afterwards it seemed to me that everyone in the European camp wanted to reverse the decision but were too scared to go against the effing and blinding Pettersen
jp5
Q-School Graduate
Of course. But once the ball has been incorrectly picked up, the question is how do you deal with it there.
For me, even with the American's previous infractions, it felt like Pettersen took advantage of a confusing situation (what with Hull walking off).
To call a penalty stroke is a big deal, and to do I'd make sure I was on top of the situation!
It didn't smell like golf to me.
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Maybe she did take advantage or maybe she thought that she has warned her twice and that was the final straw ? Or she just played within the rules ?
Only she knows the answer to that
jp5
Q-School Graduate
Well, looking at the reaction of a number of pros and ex-pros, I know which side they stand on!
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Going by how well Petterson is liked ( even by the Europeans ) I can see exactly how they are going to react
Robobum
Money List Winner
From watching that coverage and playing in hundreds of matches I think that Hull has walked off that green in the belief that she has conceded that putt. Her age has probably prevented her from standing up to her partner.
A more experienced player would have have told Petterson "sorry Suzanne, I gave her that putt and walked on"
Hull will escape criticism because of her age - she shouldn't.
A more experienced player would have have told Petterson "sorry Suzanne, I gave her that putt and walked on"
Hull will escape criticism because of her age - she shouldn't.
Troymcclure
Medal Winner
I'm not surprised. Did you hear the way Petterson spoke to her own Captain!!
A horrible situation and Peterson certainly seems to have taken the lead and was to catalyst but at the end of the day the US broke the rules.
Tashyboy
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I have this issue about people being role models and quite frankly some of the Europeean players were not in any way shape or form good role models/players when it comes to people or golfers. I have a feeling this incident is not finished with by a long shout.
a non event / incident turned into a massive spur for the Yanks. And I am sure if this incident was "the other way around" we would be slagging the Yanks off to high heaven.
a non event / incident turned into a massive spur for the Yanks. And I am sure if this incident was "the other way around" we would be slagging the Yanks off to high heaven.
The incident is finished. Just the whingeing and media frenzy that will keep it going.
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What the US players seem to have forgotten is that their player was warned twice and even Lees PP was attempting to warn her at the time of the incident.
As role models they followed the rules of the game.
I agree. Lee was a poor role model on today's showing and Europe showed that you must play to the rules no mater how unpalatable
JARS
Hacker
Just returning to the post i left earlier and it seems to have caused mixed views. I think the rules are rules end of. BUT, the situation could have been diffused by the Captain's stepping in before they finished 18. The scenes at the 18th were extremely unprofessional and FAIR PLAY to the Americans they just got on the buggy and headed in. Could be said the whole incident cost the Europeans in the end. Still, at least the Dubs won the All Ireland, GB are in the Davis Cup final and England got there bonus point (just).
richart
Major Champion
No she wasn't. She was a 20 year old rookie, that thought a putt had been conceded. I personally wouldn't judge her on that. She wasn't trying to cheat, she just made a mistake. Blimey I am sure most of us have done a lot worse than that, and still have our good name.
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Sorry but to say Lee is a poor role model based on what happened today is just pathetic.
If anything she made a genuine mistake & I can't see her doing it again anytime soon.
If anything she made a genuine mistake & I can't see her doing it again anytime soon.
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Certainly should be no slur on the name of Lee - just made a genuine mistake today and was a bit niave but that's all. She was as upset as anyone
Kellfire
Blackballed
Lee had been told twice before this incident that she was picking up too soon. How many times do you allow her to do that before you consider her to be cheating?
