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But it wasn't the only alternative. The race director had the option to allow no lapped cars through, an option he was going to exercise which is why you heard Horner going ballistic on the radio. If he had continued with this option it would have given Hamilton a deserved advantage but also would have given Verstapen the opportunity to pass the five cars in front under blue flags, on new tyres, overtake Hamilton and win. How thrilling would that have been?
Oops...
I meant to include that option too - then forgot completely about it! It would have been MY 'preferred' option!
 
See Michael Masi has just completed the Champions League draw, without incident.....
I didn't see it, but just seen the breaking news that it now has to be redrawn due to an "Admin Error". Perhaps Masi was in charge after all. However, if he was, no redraw necessary. He'd just defend the error by saying he can do as he pleases, so bog off.
 
Yet you still feel the need to come on a thread about it and comment??‍♂️
Well yes…because I came on the thread earlier when the race was on to say that I was watching the race, something I hadn’t done for a very long time. So please…your admonition was rather unnecessary…but hey…it’s SiLH. Water off a ducks back.
 
Just a thought that if I were a major sponsor or bookmaker with any integrity I'd be seriously questioning the ongoing relationship we have with F1 today.
 
Just a thought that if I were a major sponsor or bookmaker with any integrity I'd be seriously questioning the ongoing relationship we have with F1 today.
It'll be interesting what discussions are going on behind many closed doors. What will Mercedes be thinking, and their direct sponsors? It would even be interesting what Red Bull and their sponsors are discussing. Sure, they'll be delighted to win, but no one would be happy to win that way privately? As always, they will come out and defend decisions that go their way (like any team) to the public. But, Max's world championship win comes at a cost, the exact same cost that would have been Lewis' price to pay had roles been exactly reversed. On paper Max is World Champion, and his fans will celebrate that. However, to the wider audience, the FIA have turned F1 into an embarrassment.
 
Always feels strange watching F1 when you see a leader build up a nice lead for a safety car to inevitably come out and bunch up the field. Seems a waste of effort.
Also having lapped cars in the way of the leaders seems silly too as they have to move out of the way anyway.
 
Thing is, although not within normal protocol, option 1 which Red Bull complained about was within the rules. It was a way Masi could have got them racing with a lap to go, without bending the rules.

Option 2, which Merc are complaining about, was not within the rules, and there is no precedent for it.

The 2 viable alternatives according to the rules, were leave lapped cars in place and have a one lap race, or remove lapped cars and finish under the safety car.

To be consistent, it really should have been unlapped cars out of the way and finish under the safety car, because that's what would have been done in any other race of the season, or at any other point in any other race, including this one.

Regardless of whether any one is pro-Verstappen or pro-Hamilton, or whether they think one driver was more deserving than the other over the season as a whole, in the interests of the integrity of the competition in the future, they should not be pleased with how this has been handled. It's not really about which driver should have won, it's about whether what happened yesterday was fair in the context of the rules of the sport. If this carries on, it's Merc that have lost out this season, but who will it be next season? No one can think that's right, surely?!?!

Nail on head ?
 
Always feels strange watching F1 when you see a leader build up a nice lead for a safety car to inevitably come out and bunch up the field. Seems a waste of effort.
Also having lapped cars in the way of the leaders seems silly too as they have to move out of the way anyway.

It does but in the same sense, in this instance Hamilton overtook them during th course of the race. The Person behind must feel like Moses when the Red Sea parted. If the lapped cars had not moved out of the way Hamilton would of been 600 yds down the track before Verstappen went round the last corner With the lapped cars in front.
 
Was away this weekend, what did i miss?

Lewis was cruising to win the World Championship with a 12 second lead with 6 laps to go. Verstappen was second but with 5 lapped cars between him and Lewis.
There was a crash (Latifi), safety car came out.
The FIA director broke the rules by removing the lapped cars in Max's way and allowed Max to catch Lewis up. They were wrongly given one lap to race for the championship. Lewis on old hard tyres, Max on fresh soft tyres.
Lewis had no defence and Max overtook him.
Max wins and is champion because he was in the right place on the right tyres when the race director did not follow the rules.
 
Lewis was cruising to win the World Championship with a 12 second lead with 6 laps to go. Verstappen was second but with 5 lapped cars between him and Lewis.
There was a crash (Latifi), safety car came out.
The FIA director broke the rules by removing the lapped cars in Max's way and allowed Max to catch Lewis up. They were wrongly given one lap to race for the championship. Lewis on old hard tyres, Max on fresh soft tyres.
Lewis had no defence and Max overtook him.
Max wins and is champion because he was in the right place on the right tyres when the race director did not follow the rules.
Good summary. Just to add, however, as this was all "entertaining", then it was perfectly acceptable for the Race Director to break all the guidelines. His defence was "the Race Director has the final call on safety car matters, and overrides any other written regulations".

I'm looking forward to next season. The Race Director also has the final call for the starting procedure, despite all the regulations there are for that. So, now Red Bull know they can play his strings, expect all cars (except Red Bull) to go out for the parade lap before starting the race, whilst both Red Bull cars are already on Lap 10. Or, maybe he will allow a handicapped race start, where slower cars start the race early, all aimed at getting an exciting finish to the race. After all, excitement is ALL that matters. Sporting integrity means nothing.
 
Lewis was cruising to win the World Championship with a 12 second lead with 6 laps to go. Verstappen was second but with 5 lapped cars between him and Lewis.
There was a crash (Latifi), safety car came out.
The FIA director broke the rules by removing the lapped cars in Max's way and allowed Max to catch Lewis up. They were wrongly given one lap to race for the championship. Lewis on old hard tyres, Max on fresh soft tyres.
Lewis had no defence and Max overtook him.
Max wins and is champion because he was in the right place on the right tyres when the race director did not follow the rules.
Re the bold bit...
IYO!
Not according to the Stewards during the Appeal by Mercedes, instead applying an 'overriding' one.
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/...nored-to-go-racing-at-the-end-of-abu-dhabi-gp
 
I'm not a massive fan of F1 but been thinking of how they could of ended this a better way. Perhaps they should make all the cars have enough fuel for an extra 3 laps on top of the normal amount needed for a race. This way if a safety car is deployed near the end of the original distance they all have enough fuel to extend the racing past originally planned one. If it looks like the safety car is needed for longer bring the cars into the pits until track is clear with no changes allowed.
 
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