EU Referendum

[Hobbit]

There's the rub. Immigration dos'nt affect large swathes of the country so people in that situation are ambivalent towards it. Whereas it's a major issue and it's having a major detrimental effect on life where immigration is centered.

Very true. I have a work colleague who lives in Peterborough who says his son can't get a step on the job ladder because he's English. And my brother-in-law has a building firm, and has stopped quoting for jobs in London because he says the Poles have got it sewn up. And it's not pricing that's the issue.

Anecdotal, maybe.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Begs the question........What is the issue?

 

[MegaSteve]

Begs the question........What is the issue?

'Resources' can and often are stretched to past breaking point...

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Ehhh?
I have been away for a couple of days........why is everyone now talking in riddles.

 

[Hobbit]

Begs the question........What is the issue?

Different things for different people. I think France absolutely take pee. Far higher GDP but a huge rebate taking their net contributions way less than ours.

Tariffs and subsidies need addressing. Allowing basket case economies in.

If the contribution calculations were fairer and transparent it would help. And, as not one of the 10 countries that joined in 2004 is yet to make a contribution, although they've had plenty, why add more countries to the EU.

I want in but on a fairer playing field.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Different things for different people. I think France absolutely take pee. Far higher GDP but a huge rebate taking their net contributions way less than ours.

Tariffs and subsidies need addressing. Allowing basket case economies in.

If the contribution calculations were fairer and transparent it would help. And, as not one of the 10 countries that joined in 2004 is yet to make a contribution, although they've had plenty, why add more countries to the EU.

I want in but on a fairer playing field.

Ehh Ehh.. what has any of the above got to do with pricing building jobs in London..
Have I entered another universe?l

 

[Hobbit]

Ehh Ehh.. what has any of the above got to do with pricing building jobs in London..
Have I entered another universe?l

Do try and keep up Doon. You missed your meds this morning or has your Alzheimer's kicked in?

 

[MarkE]

You missed this rather important bit out of your quote!


So your actual point bears little or no relationship to the quote!

Just commenting on the fact that people who don't have to deal with the effects of a local influx of immigrants, because the immigrants tend to be settled in certain areas, mainly away from the more affluent areas of the country (I wonder why?) have a rather blase' outlook on the situation.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Do try and keep up Doon. You missed your meds this morning or has your Alzheimer's kicked in?

That would not be you being 'evasive' perchance.:lol:

 

[Foxholer]

Just commenting on the fact that people who don't have to deal with the effects of a local influx of immigrants, because the immigrants tend to be settled in certain areas, mainly away from the more affluent areas of the country (I wonder why?) have a rather blase' outlook on the situation.

Then simply do that! No need to misquote/quote out of contex!

I made/make no comment of the validity of your point!

 

[Foxholer]

Ehhh?
I have been away for a couple of days........why is everyone now talking in riddles.

Does this equate to a collective 'Oh God! He's back!' groan?

 

[User62651]

Does this equate to a collective 'Oh God! He's back!' groan?

To be fair to Doon Hobbit hasn't answered why his brother in laws building firm has stopped quoting for work in London when price is not the issue - there is another issue apparently which Hobbit has not been stated, from that one can only assume he doesn't want to state it as its contentious. It insinuates that the people awarding the work contracts are somehow biased towards giving Poles the work - if not because of cost, it must be they do a better quality job or are dodging VAT to reduce cost or even engaged in mafia style blackmail of prospective customers - I would also like to know what the reason is?

 

[Hobbit]

That would not be you being 'evasive' perchance.:lol:

Not at all. Maybe you are being obtuse, but I can't see where you're coming from. Maybe you're reading too much in what I posted.

 

[Hobbit]

To be fair to Doon Hobbit hasn't answered why his brother in laws building firm has stopped quoting for work in London when price is not the issue - there is another issue apparently which Hobbit has not been stated, from that one can only assume he doesn't want to state it as its contentious. It insinuates that the people awarding the work contracts are somehow biased towards giving Poles the work - if not because of cost, it must be they do a better quality job or are dodging VAT to reduce cost or even engaged in mafia style blackmail of prospective customers - I would also like to know what the reason is?

Maybe I should have finished the sentence with an ellipsis. The inference was if you weren't in the club, you didn't get the work.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

To be fair to Doon Hobbit hasn't answered why his brother in laws building firm has stopped quoting for work in London when price is not the issue - there is another issue apparently which Hobbit has not been stated, from that one can only assume he doesn't want to state it as its contentious. It insinuates that the people awarding the work contracts are somehow biased towards giving Poles the work - if not because of cost, it must be they do a better quality job or are dodging VAT to reduce cost or even engaged in mafia style blackmail of prospective customers - I would also like to know what the reason is?

Thank you Maxfli........not just me then.

Doors open for your reply Hobbit. [With a little less of the rudeness please.]

 

[MarkE]

Then simply do that! No need to misquote/quote out of contex!

I made/make no comment of the validity of your point!

Hobbit posted 'Immigration isn't a major factor for me apart from having the infrastructure to support it.' I made it quite clear that I was only commenting on this point, nothing about the BBC and trading bloc. I did'nt quote/misquote anything. I can't see the problem with that. If you do, feel free to ignore my posts in future. Now calm yourself down man.:thup:

 

[Foxholer]

Hobbit posted 'Immigration isn't a major factor for me apart from having the infrastructure to support it.' I made it quite clear that I was only commenting on this point, nothing about the BBC and trading bloc. I did'nt quote/misquote anything. I can't see the problem with that. If you do, feel free to ignore my posts in future. Now calm yourself down man.:thup:

Quoting out of context is just as bad a 'crime' as misquoting!

Otherwise there was no reason to get upset when I completed the paragraph!

Take your own advice?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Maybe I should have finished the sentence with an ellipsis. The inference was if you weren't in the club, you didn't get the work.

Really, that sounds like a pretty poor excuse for not being competitive.

 

[MarkE]

Quoting out of context is just as bad a 'crime' as misquoting!

Otherwise there was no reason to get upset when I completed the paragraph!

Take your own advice?

I was'nt quoting out of context!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was replying to Hobbit about a specific point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No need for you to stick your oar in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Foxholer]

I was'nt quoting out of context!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was replying to Hobbit about a specific point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No need for you to stick your oar in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...Now calm yourself down man.:thup:

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