EU Referendum

[User20205]

My point is the government have forced the hand of the public. I didn't want to leave but voted leave because (imo) the government was looking outwards instead of inward. They promised things they didn't deliver.

That's kind of my point. Is it a protest vote against Cameron & osbourne, or is it a proper eu out vote?

 

[stokie_93]

My point is the government have forced the hand of the public. I didn't want to leave but voted leave because (imo) the government was looking outwards instead of inward. They promised things they didn't deliver.

you didn't want to leave but voted leave? are you for real?

 

[hovis]

Today is the day when we should roll up out sleeves and say to the world,
This is how democracy works, we all vote and then crack on. We can now unite and rebuild out national pride, and no I don't mean cut ourselves off, I mean show the world we are a great country of hard working and honest people who are easy to deal with. We do not want to turn into jack booted skins heads, that is NOT who we are. We need everyone to do this. Lift your heads up and be proud of your country.

Sounds good to me

 

[hovis]

you didn't want to leave but voted leave? are you for real?

Yes. Feel like there's no other option. Government are not listening. They will now

 

[FairwayDodger]

My daughter says she might have to consider moving her business from Scotland to Ireland, she was just starting to build up good links in Europe.
I wonder if this is the road others will follow, especially Northern Irish.

Boom time for Ireland, I suspect. Lots of foreign companies like an English speaking gateway into the EU. That used to be us.

 

[Raesy92]

Today is the day when we should roll up out sleeves and say to the world,
This is how democracy works, we all vote and then crack on. We can now unite and rebuild out national pride, and no I don't mean cut ourselves off, I mean show the world we are a great country of hard working and honest people who are easy to deal with. We do not want to turn into jack booted skins heads, that is NOT who we are. We need everyone to do this. Lift your heads up and be proud of your country.

The problem is that many are not hard working and honest people... We blame immigrants for 'taking our jobs' but these are exactly the people that refuse to do the jobs that immigrants are taking.

 

[Snelly]

There should be an IQ test as a proviso to vote. May have been different then

Which is precisely the kind of high handed attitude that prompted me to vote leave. The liberal elite insinuating that anyone not voting remain is thick and / or xenophobic has been their downfall.

I am not stupid or racist and being told that I must be by the thought police has been totally unacceptable to me.

 

[Old Skier]

My daughter says she might have to consider moving her business from Scotland to Ireland, she was just starting to build up good links in Europe.
I wonder if this is the road others will follow, especially Northern Irish.

So she's not to sure what would be best for her business then as its only a might.

 

[hovis]

The problem is that many are not hard working and honest people... We blame immigrants for 'taking our jobs' but these are exactly the people that refuse to do the jobs that immigrants are taking.

3 Polish firemen in Staffordshire have most certainly taken jobs from British people wanting them.

The Slovak receptionist at my gym got the job many wanted

 

[Papas1982]

The problem is that many are not hard working and honest people... We blame immigrants for 'taking our jobs' but these are exactly the people that refuse to do the jobs that immigrants are taking.

Our unemployment rate is inline with many countries. And they get by OK. Saying we won't succeed because of a few is wrong imo. If anything, once the "blame immigrants" excuse can't be used. Hopefully tougher sanctions will be made to these few people and they'll contribute or their benefits will be cut.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Alternative to me is that if we have a GE then UKIP will get a surge in votes. So personally I hope not. Also don't feel conservatives will want one as they know UKIP will eat into their votes as well I suspect. Plus potential for big backlash from the disaffected 48% who votes remain who may well blame tory party for this.

I am one of that 48% and any backlash from me will be aimed very firmly at the Labour Party.

The Tories knew all along that their party and its voters were divided on this issue and attempted to address it.

Labour on the other hand largely took an arrogant and complacent stance that their vote would fall into line. Trouble was not enough people knew what that line was.

As Mandelson said on the radio this morning after a year in the job it really is about time that Corbyn started presenting some indication of policies.

The trouble is he is finding a real political job much tougher than the politics of protest that he has been used to.

 

[Old Skier]

That's kind of my point. Is it a protest vote against Cameron & osbourne, or is it a proper eu out vote?

Did you read the ballot paper.

Things I didn't notice,

a place for DOB. Did you want to remove Cameron & Osbourne from office.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

When I left to come to work this morning my 10 year old daughter was still sleeping, so I I kissed her and said a silent sorry. I feel we have bequeathed a country which has just voted itself out of the biggest trading bloc in the world and will shortly be even less influential when the union breaks up. Run by an even more right wing government when Cameron inevitably goes. We have a political system which seems to be more aping the US system of creating a political environment of fear and intolerance, drowning out most real concerns and issues on both sides. And the whole world seems to be sliding into more entrenched nationalistic and introverted policies in a time when I feel we need to work together even more closely to try and counter the economic, environmental and terror threats we face.

I for one prey the so called experts on one side were not right when they talked about the consequences of this vote we have just made.

I wish this was not how I feel this morning. My 21 and 24 yr old children are really upset - and, rightly or wrongly, they blame the older generation for their selfishness and shortsightedness.

 

[User20205]

Which is precisely the kind of high handed attitude that prompted me to vote leave. The liberal elite insinuating that anyone not voting remain is thick and / or xenophobic has been their downfall.

I am not stupid or racist and being told that I must be by the thought police has been totally unacceptable to me.

You're the exception that proves the rule mate . It's ok, you'd have qualified.

However anyone that talks about 'Great' ' Britain and then mentions that Scotland should 'do one'. Anyone that references a war fought 70 years ago (or 34 years ago for that matter) or anyone that votes in a European referendum on a uk protest vote may not have passed unfortunately

 

[Slab]

I still don't understand why the scotts have been banging on about independence and then vote to stay in the Eu?????

When you want to split from your wife/girlfriend it doesn't mean you no longer like women

 

[Old Skier]

I am one of that 48% and any backlash from me will be aimed very firmly at the Labour Party.

The Tories knew all along that their party and its voters were divided on this issue and attempted to address it.

Labour on the other hand largely took an arrogant and complacent stance that their vote would fall into line. Trouble was not enough people knew what that line was.

As Mandelson said on the radio this morning after a year in the job it really is about time that Corbyn started presenting some indication of policies.

The trouble is he is finding a real political job much tougher than the politics of protest that he has been used to.

Labour Party has been a "do as I say party" for too long which was the main reason my old man left it. Corbyn is one of the worst, anti EU but still insisted everyone else voted to stay. I would love to see his ballot paper.

 

[hovis]

That's kind of my point. Is it a protest vote against Cameron & osbourne, or is it a proper eu out vote?

A bit of both really.

My main reson for leaving is i get a front row seat on emergency services and the nhs. Most people have no idea how stretched they are.

If you live in Leicestershire and you have a heart attack did you know your going to get two fireman come to your rescue rather than a paramedic? Its like giving a monkey a machine gun

 

[User20205]

Did you read the ballot paper.

Things I didn't notice,

a place for DOB. Did you want to remove Cameron & Osbourne from office.

I didn't see that either, it's just a shame some didn't bring their specs

 

[hovis]

When you want to split from your wife/girlfriend it doesn't mean you no longer like women

Yeh, put me off for life

 

[Old Skier]

I wish this was not how I feel this morning. My 21 and 24 yr old children are really upset - and, rightly or wrongly, they blame the older generation for their selfishness and shortsightedness.

Sit them down and politely explain to them that democracy has no age barriers and being ageist is as bad as being racist or sexist. I'm sure they will listen to an old mans wise words.