Etiquette - What would you have done?

[jammydodger]

If someone put a ball through my group and apologised then fair enough , we all make mistakes. Do it twice and imo its been done deliberately and the offending ball will go missing mysteriously. Do it again and I dont care what anyone says about etiquette the ball will be sailing straight back to the tee at double the speed it arrived

 

[colintrav]

I presume your a member of Ranfurly castle in BOW , I had to laugh at the Membership section .. limited so the course isnt over played

Hardly anyone plays that course during the week period ..

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think I'm with jammydodger on this. Once is a genuine mistake, twice I'll be having words but a third time it goes back to where it came from

 

[pigmeister]

Reguarding the 3 ball i would have politly told them i was playing through. Reguarding the 5 ball, i cannot believe anyone would play in one. What kind off cowboy clubs do you play at?

 

[colintrav]

Before finishing reading this post I KNOW what they should have done however:

Played twice over the weekend; the first time held up from the 7th by 3 Seniors', ours was a 2 ball, also 8th through until 18th where we had to wait on every hole. On the 10th they proceeded to have coffee from their flask and we had walked off the 9th and they had not even played their shot to the 10th which is a short par 3 as they had not finished their coffee!

The next day we were in a 4Ball playing Match play where putts were conceeded. Similar situation when we came to the 7th where there was a 5 BALL, REPEAT 5 BALL. We were held up again all the way round on every hole although on 2 holes twice.When we reached the 16th we came off in disgust. What made it worse was that one of the 5Ball was a Past Captain during 2007 and another was on the Handicap and Competitions Committee who encourage fast play and letting people through.

Need I say more!

Your playing the game for all the wrong reasons

Those old players are just enjoying there day out on the course making the most of it instead of going round at such a pace and not taking in the occasion ..

.........

 

[viscount17]

It should never be necessary to ask to play through but unfortunately for many it's an ego problem for them.

Those I have a real issue with are those who keep you back until the 18th when it's suddenly 'oh, do you want to play this with us?' or 'do you want to go through'

 

[Herbie]

It is best not to get involved and just keep your frustrations to yourself, you just may be unlucky if you get angry or pushy with strangers who may be playing a little slow.

I know of one chap who got angry with a group and went up to give them a hard time and abuse, it turned out that the guy he abused was 72,deaf and disabled, only played a couple of times a year due to his condition and the guy he was playing with was also very aged and was an OWNER at the time. Sometimes the obvious is not that obvious. But it was goodbye to Mr angry of that you can be sure.

If he had taken his complaint through the propper channels it would all have been discovered and understood without the need for anger or someone being kicked out of the club.

It is amazing the lengths golfers will go to, to have a go at the wrong people. I played once with a co owner of a club when it first became 18 hole and the comp was slow ahead of us, but we couldnt go through a comp anyway so we plodded on, but the group behind were increasingly frustrated by the slow play, they didnt know a comp was ahead ( knowledge is a wonderful thing )but not knowing led to assumptions that we were guilty of not 'going thru' or slow play holding them up. At one tee we got a torrant of foul abuse and aggressive comments, but the moment one chap said "who the ( ) do you think you are?" you could have heard a pin drop when the reply was "I am the owner so who are you?".....silence........more silence....then he said "Its just going to be the one round here then?....as in forever!" Moments like that dont come very often.

 

[Parmo]

I had a situation yesterday where a one ball was up are behind (I took the wife out for her first round!!) and could of let him through but there was another couple (man and noob wife) in front and a 4 ball in front of them, we kept the pacwe and on the 8th (260 yard par 4 with a bell to let the group behind to play down when on the green) a ball comes running down to our bags, I took out my 7i walked to the offending ball and preceded to plant it in the woods. if the bell hasnt gone or you havent been waved down then dont play it, the guy did the same on the 9th as well. fairweather golfers :shakeyfist:

 

[haplesshacker]

I'm in the 'fire one at them camp' whilst sat here in front of my computor. However I'd not do it on the course.

At our track, it's not always obvious where the source of the slow play group is. Therefore it's very difficult to just blame the group immediately in front of you.

Despite the terrible round yesterday, the weather was glorious, but, OMG, where did all the numpties turn up from!?

The club were promoting the availabilities of buggies, and consequently a lot of pay and players were taking them. The course was full of prats. The group behind us looked like one father, his teenage (17) son and two of his sons mates.

On one hole they parked their buggies just to the left and in front of the tee area. We were off the whites and they were playing the yellows. Two holes later, they were shouting as to where the old mans ball was, right next to the teeing area for the next hole as we were taking our tee shots. I'd had enough and told them to shut up, to which they started getting worse and so I told them to go and copulate elsewhere! Good news was that we didn' see them after that, they stayed well back. Add the fact that they were wearing cargo combat 3/4 length trousers / shorts and one was in a football shirt!

The club? I've not once seen the club take any action over any of this.

One chap parked his golf trolley in the pathway to the greenside bar, there are notices everywhere asking people not to do this. We pointed this out to the club captain. He didn't care!?

I guess now that the 'summer' is here we're going to get a lot more of this. Soceities, bad manners, drunks, poor etiquette, pitch marks not being repaired, not being able to get a bacon butty in before the round because of the soceities, buggies being driven by idiots that think it's okay to skid the wheels in the car park, on the faiways, and on the greens, shouting across the course, leaving the green when it's time to putt to wander off to the tee area 3 holes ahead to have a chat with their mates, .........Ahhh, fairweather golfers!!!!

It's not that I mind them being bad players, we all have our moments. But it's the lack of consideration that hacks me off.

Clubs seem less inclined to deal with all these points for fear of losing custom in such difficult times.

Lets hope for another wet summer, it should keep some of them away. (I know they help pay the bills and keep the subs down!!)

I do enjoy winter golf so much more. But this is what we have to endure to enjoy our game in the sun.

Moan for the day over with.

 

[Libzy]

As a greenkeeper I often have to deal with the aspect of slow play. However most of the time it boils down to overcrowding on the course rather than slow play. On my course the back 9 is mostly par 3s with a couple of very short par 4s that most think they can drive the green (and fail) so it always holds up play as players on a par 4 tee wait for golfers on the green.

However we always seem to find ourselves chasing up 5 balls, or what I think is worse, people sharing clubs. The funny thing is the golfers at fault always see me as the bad guy telling them they need to bugger off and get another set of clubs ot split into a 2 and 3 ball group.

It does seem though that having grown up on a golf course I have been playing for 20 years now (I'm 26 honest) I was brought up to always allow people through and the play fast although not rushing. It strikes me now that very few golfers, even the older player who has been around for a while fails to abide the basic rules of etiquette and allow people to play through, really is a shame.