rulefan
Tour Winner
Has anyone had confirmation or otherwise re making a 'rule' that all scores must be returned using a smartphone app or PC subject to DQ?
Electronic score returns
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3offTheTee
Tour Rookie
That cannot happen as everybody does not have a smartphone etc.
A guy at our place was disqualified last week as one of the people playing with him in the 3 ball said he submitted his card electronically and did not by mistake. He is a member of another Club which is his home club but his score was sent to them. His score was taken from the other player’s card. Any comments RF whether this is acceptable?
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Can't really do it. What will clubs do for those without smartphones. My brother and two nephews won't go anywhere near them.
rulefan
Tour Winner
I'm not quite clear on who was who.
But essentially it is down to the competition committee to decide if the situation warranted DQ. IMO both players should be questioned.
3offTheTee
Tour Rookie
OK sorry. Take 2
Player A at our place was disqualified last week as one of the people playing with him in the 3 ball said he submitted his card electronically and did not by mistake. Player A is a ALSO member of another Club which is Player A’s home club but his score was sent to Player A’s Home Club in addition to our Club where the disqualification happened.His score was taken from the other player’s card. Any comments RF whether this is acceptable?
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
We have been trialling scores recorded on a smartphone or similar and have abandoned it. Within the trial only one person got the procedure fully right. Most forgot or did not realise they were also supposed to submit a photo. My own phone froze on one screen with a message that apparently I was the only one to see.
We will still allow submission by electronic means but the cards still have to be returned and are going down the 'cards will be quarantined for 72' hours route. We have gone with the R&A suggested procedure - A player marks their own card and the scores are verified verbally only with the marker. Marker to record the players scores on their card so we can verify if needed.
We have 5% of players who appear to have no sort of electronic device so how could we bar them from comps!! I would hate to guess how many do not have smartphones.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
We carried out a survey of our seniors, we have just over 60 senior members and received 42 response regarding using smartphones/tablets/PC use for
Comp registration
Comp Score entry
Via HDID
Resounding positive response even by those who didn't have smartphones but did have access to Internet via other equipment. Access to HDID for V1 users is the key, not smartphones.
We have run 3 qualifiers with no problems. We don't quarantine cards, all cards are marked by a marker and emailed back to the input guy for verification which would then include those who aren't able to use the technology.
Can be a little labour intensive but it works. Best system so far was me sat in the sun outside the clubhouse with iPad and doing each group as they come in.
Comp registration
Comp Score entry
Via HDID
Resounding positive response even by those who didn't have smartphones but did have access to Internet via other equipment. Access to HDID for V1 users is the key, not smartphones.
We have run 3 qualifiers with no problems. We don't quarantine cards, all cards are marked by a marker and emailed back to the input guy for verification which would then include those who aren't able to use the technology.
Can be a little labour intensive but it works. Best system so far was me sat in the sun outside the clubhouse with iPad and doing each group as they come in.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Or today, not stopped since 0800 hrs this morning. Next one is a Scramble on TuesdayI bet you are glad you did not have to sit outside yesterday.
rulefan
Tour Winner
In conversation with EG I get the impression that currently getting a score in and recorded is more important than how and when it gets there. Committees should to put in place procedures that will avoid situations where players are faced with a penalty through no fault of their own.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Apologies for going a little off topic, but didn't feel it warranted its own thread.
Has any guidance been given to the process of entering comps?
A club near me is still insisting on sticking paper stamps on a noticeboard in the corridor.
Several guys there were hoping covid19 situation might drag them into the 21st century.
Has any guidance been given to the process of entering comps?
A club near me is still insisting on sticking paper stamps on a noticeboard in the corridor.
Several guys there were hoping covid19 situation might drag them into the 21st century.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
The situation as helped us move on and prove how easy it is for those that use the technology. Our owner is that impressed he's even looking at a bar card system
and he's bought another PSI system.
Wildboy370
Active member
We have been doing comps for two weeks now. We use one card for the three ball scores agree scores after each hole. We then take a picture of completed card signed by scorer. Email to handicap secretary who must have access to HDID and BRS as by Sunday afternoon emails sent showing results and and handicap changes. Seems simple and works ok.
Colin L
Tour Winner
I have just got supplementaries under way using a web based system. It's very simple. Members submit an online form to register, the sort of form you get for contacting firms that seem coy about giving out an email address It only needs three fields - name, date of play and whether 9 or 18 holes. They submit their scores on another form which needs.six fields: name, handicap, date of play, marker's name, which tees played from and scores. The scores are recorded in one field like this (groups of 3 because I find that the easiest way to read them when entering them into the Clubv1 system):
454 653 546
447 545 737
The website maintains a list of submissions of each form and so I have a ready-made cloud-based record of registrations and score returns. Returns can be made on desktop, laptop, tablet or phone. Members have been given instructions about marker's verifying score orally and the form for scores states that by submitting it, the member is certifying his or her own score and confirming that the marker orally verified it.
I launched it on Tuesday with a note about the importance of getting scores in so that their WHS handicap index is based on 20 recent scores so that it reflects their current ability. Did the message get through? Well, I am at the moment overwhelmed with scores to record and there must have been about 30 registrations a few hours ago, probably more by now.
The website is hosted free by Wix but each form is limited to a small number of fields. If we upgrade to a paid service, , I could provide a separate box for the score of each hole. That might come as it looks as it the set-up would be robust enough to use for a stroke competition.
454 653 546
447 545 737
The website maintains a list of submissions of each form and so I have a ready-made cloud-based record of registrations and score returns. Returns can be made on desktop, laptop, tablet or phone. Members have been given instructions about marker's verifying score orally and the form for scores states that by submitting it, the member is certifying his or her own score and confirming that the marker orally verified it.
I launched it on Tuesday with a note about the importance of getting scores in so that their WHS handicap index is based on 20 recent scores so that it reflects their current ability. Did the message get through? Well, I am at the moment overwhelmed with scores to record and there must have been about 30 registrations a few hours ago, probably more by now.
The website is hosted free by Wix but each form is limited to a small number of fields. If we upgrade to a paid service, , I could provide a separate box for the score of each hole. That might come as it looks as it the set-up would be robust enough to use for a stroke competition.
rulie
Head Pro
I don't think this is appropriate - unless the other player is his marker, any recording of score is irrelevant.
cliveb
Head Pro
Our club takes the entry fee when you check in on the day rather than when you enter. And we've only recently discovered that using Intelligent Golf, the ONLY way to check in is on a PSI. Can't do it via the website or app.
The more I deal with IG since we switched from ClubV1 last year, the more I think we may have made a mistake.
Or have IG support told us a Porkie - anyone know if there is another way to check in?
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Old Skier
Tour Winner
My mistake, I thought you were IG
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
Do you mean enter a competition in advance or do you mean confirm you have arrived and are playing.
We have IG but still use a a paper based system for the latter so that cards can be numbered so which check for missing cards. We can enter the comp up to 8 days in advance and IG is set up to take the entry fee via the web and players an enter their scores via the IG app.
