Eco warriors.

Old Skier said:
I'd have more respect for the protesters if they organized local demonstrations rather than travel from all over causing environmental pollution.
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Not 100% sure a few crusties blocking the A254 out of Chipping Norton would have made such an impact.
 
pauljames87 said:
Sorry for delayed reply been trying to formulate something that doesn’t sound totally selfish lol

I don’t like change. Like really don’t. I didn’t move out my parents until I could afford a 3 bed semi, so me and wife lived here 4.5 years now. We have 1 child who is almost 2. We going to have 2 but I don’t like moving (too much change) so we are getting a loft extension for us (suits my shift working) and the kids can be downstairs with a big sized room each and the box room for guests / drying washing.

I know I can provide a comfortable life for the 4 of us. 5 would be a push. I want to be able to go on holidays with them all without spending a fortune! Same with cars I don’t wnna have to get a 7 seater to fit us all lol

Sounds stupid I know.

Also on the none selfish part I want to be able to provide both kids with a house deposit when their around 25

I’m aiming to retire at 60 (28 years) so that’s ties in almost perfect with that

I couldn’t imagine the work 3 let alone 6 kids takes. We got 1 sorted. 2 is gonna kill me
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Doesn't sound selfish at all mate and we're all entitled to feel how we feel.

Once you get past the 2nd kid it's easy you're already to knackered to worry 😂

In all seriousness though it doesn't take any extra work as they help out with each other and have their little chores they do to earn some pocket money. My oldest is 19 got her own job, her own money and helps about the house often takes her younger siblings out often takes them to walk through fields and teaches them about the animals and nature so really helps them understand the area we live in and why they need to look after the world and not waste things oh and she treats them to.

But good luck with the 2nd I found that the hardest one 😂
 
Wolf said:
Doesn't sound selfish at all mate and we're all entitled to feel how we feel.

Once you get past the 2nd kid it's easy you're already to knackered to worry 😂

In all seriousness though it doesn't take any extra work as they help out with each other and have their little chores they do to earn some pocket money. My oldest is 19 got her own job, her own money and helps about the house often takes her younger siblings out often takes them to walk through fields and teaches them about the animals and nature so really helps them understand the area we live in and why they need to look after the world and not waste things oh and she treats them to.

But good luck with the 2nd I found that the hardest one 😂
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Yeah everyone says second is hardest by a mile!! Scared 😂

19 yo that’s a good gap! Sounds like my dad and his 6 sisters 18 year gap between him and youngest

I just couldn’t handle it lol 3 year gap 2 kids lol that’s me done 😂
 
Dibby said:
So just to add a viewpoint that doesn't seem to have been covered, I think the current approach or eco-warriors is very flawed. If you tell people they have to roll back their lifestyles, all you will meet is huge resistance, once people have enjoyed flying to new places, having a car, eating meat etc.. the majority will not want to give this up, and telling them to do so will just get their backs up, rather than get them to agree.

In practice, I think the best option would be for eco-warriors to push for things that people will get behind - such as funding for science and technology that makes the things we currently enjoy cleaner, renewable energy, reforestation of certain areas etc.. People would get behind this, and support them, but disrupting people and telling them they have to give up a whole bunch of things that they enjoy is not a great strategy.

The above approach may take slightly longer to slow down, stop and reverse the impacts, but it will be more successful long term, as realistically most people will only really consider giving up things when they feel personally impacted, which for the UK will not be for some time yet.
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Personally I'm not convinced that they are eco-warriors so much as anti-capitalists claiming to be eco-warriors. Fully agree that their tactics are flawed; I don't think many people are blind to the issues, and I don't see inconveniencing and peeing off ordinary people going about their business as a clever way of gaining support.
 
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Was at Heathrow earlier.. no signs of protesters .. lots of police

Think it did me a favour that my mates flight was delayed 3 hours so they had been moved on by then

I think it was a hoax .. they didn’t announce any of the other targets like that so gave enough warning to drum up interest in the news
 
SocketRocket said:
If the countryside alliance were blocking roads in Chipping Norton the same people would be asking the police to remove them
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I'd be livid - got to drive through Chipping to get to my mum's house!! 😂😂
 
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