Don't point, shout FORE you idiots!

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Watching the Irish open.... Time after the after time there are no shouts of fore, just a pointed finger. What good is that from 300+ yards away. Absolute joke.

In my opinion something needs to be done on the tours about this, pointing isn't good enough!
 
Now Rahm has just hit someone.... No shout, not even his normal pointing.... Just a quiet word of "bounce over it".... Then asking "did I see it correctly?". Commentator speculating that Rahm thought it was going to bounce over a bunker.....
 
Not disagreeing with you but....
It would take a second or two to work out that a shout is necessary
Another second to shout
Another second for the sound to get 300+ yards
Another second or two for people to hear and understand and another second to actually move.
That's seven seconds
The ball is already there.
Add into the equation that at these events there are a lot of people who make a reasonable amount of noise, especially if nobody is playing close by.
If people are actually watching play, a point/wave of a flag is going to be of more benefit than a shout.
Generally, people get hit because they're not paying attention.
They're one golf course and there are golf balls flying around. You need to be aware of what's going on.

None of the above excuses a player/caddy from shouting - they should still shout. But in reality it's not likely to prevent someone getting nutted...
 
Doesn't bother me when I've been to Tour events. I'm aware I'm at risk.
The guys there are playing for a million pounds or more. Last thing you want is hearing the shout of fore from an adjacent fairway at the top of your backswing.
On top of that I'm usually watching out for rogue balls anyway.

normally everyone on the tee box points too, not just the player who's pushed one.
 
Are they not issuing fines at the Irish Open for no shouts. Noticed more shouts than usual when I watched a bit of coverage yesterday.
 
palindromicbob said:
Are they not issuing fines at the Irish Open for no shouts. Noticed more shouts than usual when I watched a bit of coverage yesterday.
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Thats a european tour rule i believe. Fines for no shout, not that it seems to stop the no shouts.

I get the feeling this week that most of the time when an arm goes out it is more to alert the marshalls to where the ball is going so it can be found, as on some holes the crowd are away up on the dunes.
 
Rahm carries it 300 yards

A. Hitting it that long you can not always tell it is going towards the spectators
B. Can you hear a shout of fore from 300 yards



Personally think it is a strange place for people to stand, adjacent to the landing area on a par 4 or 5
 
Dasit said:
Rahm carries it 300 yards

A. Hitting it that long you can not always tell it is going towards the spectators
B. Can you hear a shout of fore from 300 yards



Personally think it is a strange place for people to stand, adjacent to the landing area on a par 4 or 5
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They might stand there to get a close up view of the approach shot.
 
Dasit said:
Rahm carries it 300 yards

A. Hitting it that long you can not always tell it is going towards the spectators
B. Can you hear a shout of fore from 300 yards



Personally think it is a strange place for people to stand, adjacent to the landing area on a par 4 or 5
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Surely you'd want to see the second shots, so why wouldn't you stand near the landing area?
 
Surely the point is that, when they are playing, the spectators lining the fairway are looking at them so a wave will give more warning than a shout. A shout is necessary when we play because the target is unlikely to be looking in our direction.
 
As with most things in life, nothing will change until someone is seriously hurt or killed.
It is disgraceful that the pro's and caddies dont shout fore.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Hard to hear at 300 yards the shout of fore. I understand there are fines being handed out but I guess they'll be punitive especially compared to the money on offer
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Shouts resonate up the fairway. The fore shout helps at these tournaments.



I was at the pro am on Wednesday. Its a miracle people don't get seriously hurt at these. Justin rose spoke to my mate and nephew and said you guys were brave standing there as AP McCoy and jimmy Nesbitt had hit a few yards away from where they were standing. I didn't take a chance and stood a little further back.

Nesbitt actually did hit a low duck hook on 17 and hit the crowd about 40 yards from the tee. We were about 50 yards away and all dived and ducked. Luckily it had bounced and took some sting out of it.
 
garyinderry said:
Shouts resonate up the fairway. The fore shout helps at these tournaments.



I was at the pro am on Wednesday. Its a miracle people don't get seriously hurt at these. Justin rose spoke to my mate and nephew and said you guys were brave standing there as AP McCoy and jimmy Nesbitt had hit a few yards away from where they were standing. I didn't take a chance and stood a little further back.

Nesbitt actually did hit a low duck hook on 17 and hit the crowd about 40 yards from the tee. We were about 50 yards away and all dived and ducked. Luckily it had bounced and took some sting out of it.
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I agree the sounds resonate but at many curses there is one or two fairways in proximity and having to be to tour events it's not always 100% certain where the shout is coming from. As for the pro-am I would sooner stand 250-300 yards away as you're safer given the way some celebs can hit it
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Totally agree and it'll happen sooner rather than later especially in the US
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Surely the chances of someone being killed are minimal? Where would a ball have to hit you to kill you? And at what kind of speed?

Just look at the chap that got hit at the cricket yesterday! The human skull is extremely good at its job.

The biggest risk I would have thought is getting hit in the eye or something like that.

As noted above, the risk at a pro am or on your own course is greater as a pile driver low hook is hugely more dangerous. One of those to the temple could be very serious.
 
Bunkermagnet said:
As with most things in life, nothing will change until someone is seriously hurt or killed.
It is disgraceful that the pro's and caddies dont shout fore.
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A bit OTT... this sounds like a subject to get annoyed about just for the sake of it... I go to golf tournaments to watch golf.. So i'd be watching the golfers ball heading my way. Plus the Marshalls wave the signs in the direction of flight.
 
guest100718 said:
A bit OTT... this sounds like a subject to get annoyed about just for the sake of it... I go to golf tournaments to watch golf.. So i'd be watching the golfers ball heading my way. Plus the Marshalls wave the signs in the direction of flight.
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Not really. A golf ball hitting you at the "right point" on your head could kill you, or smash your eye socket or your eye ball. If the common practice was to shout fore by the pro's and their caddies there would be no arguement, but they don't which is why I feel nothing will change until someone is seriously hurt. You also assume that everyone in the near vicinity is following the game with the wayward drive, most holes have walkways between or to the side of the ropes and spectators.
 
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