Does God Exist?

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coolhand said:
Was live designed? Yes - there are just too many perfect adaptations to have occured via mutation and natural selection alone.
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I had this discussion recently.... and as arrogant as mankind is to believe he was perfectly designed we came up against one question...

In God's perfect design was a big rock meant to extinct the dinosaurs?... else we might have never been here at all! I'm sure there'll be people who'll say the big rock was 'planned' :mad:
 
Snelly said:
The Old Testament? You mean that book that states we should kill adulterers and homosexuals? And have slaves? Ah yes, I know the one. Written by people that thought the earth was flat? Yep. Familiar with it.
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Thats the one Snelly.
Glad i didn't say that though. Hardhats ready me thinks. :rofl:
 
JustOne said:
I had this discussion recently.... and as arrogant as mankind is to believe he was perfectly designed we came up against one question...

In God's perfect design was a big rock meant to extinct the dinosaurs?... else we might have never been here at all! I'm sure there'll be people who'll say the big rock was 'planned' :mad:
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"Intelligently designed" not "Perfectly designed"
;)
Without wanting to get too deep into my personal beliefs – I see “gods” involvement in earth as like someone playing Sims. Every once and a while they step in change some parameters – then things just move on naturally.

At the end you see what your score is.
 
To me as i said earlier , believe what you want to believe but treat others with the respect you would want in return ,

Dont confuse religions by the people that run them tho , the people who over the years have used different interpetations to sway things for their own means , can any "story" "fact" or happening be truly recounted over 5 years ? let alone thousands of years ..


Im a catholic but im not blind or mad enough to know that there are mad atrocities carried out in the name of my religion.

Im not arrogant or bullish enough to say i obey every single rule of the catholic church , i dont .

Im not so religious as to think my ways are right & yours are wrong , my best friend is a protestant . we would give anything for each other , not in the name of religion , in the act of friendship .

Believe in what ever gives you hope & consolation when you need it but remember (& i know Garth Brooks put it in a song) but even before that, sometimes unanswered prayers turn out to be the best result for you in the long run , what you want, might not be whats best for you ..

I have played golf , worked doors , traveled parts of the world & never asked the people i met do you or what God do you believe in ? its not important to me

I have seen my kids born , be sick, get better & grow strong , and every time ive prayed to my God for his help & every night i thank him for the good life i have ..
Just wanted to share that , Is there a God ? For me yes , believe what you wana believe but be a good person doing it

Sorry for going on ,
 
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quinn said:
Its a no for me.I can prove god doesnt exist alot easier than someone who says there is one.
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Really? - you reckon you can prove something doesn't exist when you don't know what it is that you are trying to prove doesn't exist?

Some might say that the proof of the existence of 'God' is the same sort of proof that scientists use to 'prove' the existence of black holes viz - the observable effects that 'something' is having on a specific area of the universe. The evidence of the existence of the 'something' therefore not the 'something' itself (as in 'there it is!'), but the effects of that 'something' (as in 'look around at what it does and has done in the past'). And that 'something' scientist have called a Black Hole.

And for those who believe in God - they do not say 'look - there is God', rather they say 'look around at what God does and has done in the past'
 
Crikey... we are humans... who do we think we are that we are remotely capable of proving God exists even if there IS one? Are we really that full of ourselves? Believe in God? sure if you want, introduce him to your friends and have him as your Winter League playing partner?... probably not.

oops!..... carry on as you were.
 
bladeplayer said:
To me as i said earlier , believe what you want to believe but treat others with the respect you would want in return ,

Dont confuse religions by the people that run them tho , the people who over the years have used different interpetations to sway things for their own means , can any "story" "fact" or happening be truly recounted over 5 years ? let alone thousands of years ..


Im a catholic but im not blind or mad enough to know that there are mad atrocities carried out in the name of my religion.

Im not arrogant or bullish enough to say i obey every single rule of the catholic church , i dont .

Im not so religious as to think my ways are right & yours are wrong , my best friend is a protestant . we would give anything for each other , not in the name of religion , in the act of friendship .

Believe in what ever gives you hope & consolation when you need it but remember (& i know Garth Brooks put it in a song) but even before that, sometimes unanswered prayers turn out to be the best result for you in the long run , what you want, might not be whats best for you ..

I have played golf , worked doors , traveled parts of the world & never asked the people i met do you or what God do you believe in ? its not important to me

I have seen my kids born , be sick, get better & grow strong , and every time ive prayed to my God for his help & every night i thank him for the good life i have ..
Just wanted to share that , Is there a God ? For me yes , believe what you wana believe but be a good person doing it

Sorry for going on ,
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Great post mate :thup:

Agree 100% so much so I could almost have written this myself.
 
(part of the thread progress.... and YES there is a reason for my question)

Can someone answer this question... why do we cry at funerals?
 
because we are sad that a loved one has passed on and we will never share their company again,

Also it reminds us of our own mortality, thats its going to be our turn one day

And I cant go yet coz I havnt played enough golf yet

Fragger
 
JustOne said:
What do you think would happen to people's state of mind (worldwide) and behaviour if it was categorically proved that you were 100% destined to be worm food?

I'm not saying for an instant that religion is a state of control for the masses but if 5 billion+ people were suddenly to have it proved beyond all doubt that there was no God then surely there'd be a huge shift in (for example) crime, murder, adultery......

No more religous wars.... they'd have to be real ones. No more church... no more Muslim, Christian, Jew etc... it'd be too HUGE to comprehend. Best to break the news slowly....... :mad:
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What about going the other way and it was proven beyond doubt that God(s) DID exist? Would that make all the non believers suddenly change?

Interesting debate this.
 
It would Phil.




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Seeing as you answered my question about crying at funerals, are you comfortable discussing that answer with me, man-o man-o?
 
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JustOne said:
Why not? :confused:
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Ok I'll try and explain why and describe my experience. Apologies for the tone it may contain.

I don't think I had ever cried at a funeral my whole life and on the 2nd of September this year my Mum died very suddenly, a sad and devastating day and a day I dreaded happening my whole life. My mum was not i'll so all very shocking.

Fast forward 5 days to the day of the funeral, I stayed as strong as I could for my own family, my brother and my mums 3 sisters and did not cry a tear the whole week even during the funeral however afterwards was a different kettle of fish, yes I cried and cried a lot.

Why?

I'll tell you why, I lost my mum and the stark realisation that the women who made me the person I grew to be was no longer here, I can no longer wish her happy birthday, happy christmas or happy mothers day in person. Sure I can go to the cemetary and visit and say a few words to give me a bit of comfort but it's not the same. I miss her every single day.

It's my thought that people cry at funerals because people realise that those being put to rest will no longer be there to lend an ear for a chat or sound off.
 
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