bozza
Journeyman Pro
I agree with this, I play golf for enjoyment but I also want to get my h/c as low as possible and if I win a few comps on the way then so be it.
Do 3/4 handicap comps favour good golfers too much?
- Thread starter ColchesterFC
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I agree with this, I play golf for enjoyment but I also want to get my h/c as low as possible and if I win a few comps on the way then so be it.
There are many people out there playing off +5.
So stick to your word and pack in golf.
Wouldn't want to be a hypocrite, would you?
Yep there will be a few but not too many, so for now I will continue to play. Now what does that mean in your terms, yep your now getting 26 shots, wow... I guess you really need them
Kellfire
Blackballed
How would I be giving someone off +5 26 shots when I said I don't even give scratch players any two shot holes?
Maths isn't your strong point.
How would I be giving someone off +5 26 shots when I said I don't even give scratch players any two shot holes?
Maths isn't your strong point.
I would find it hard to think that you would give a scratch player any shot never mind 2 a hole, more like them giving you a barra load of shots
Kellfire
Blackballed
Nah, I give them shots, I feel bad for how often I can beat them with my chopper game so I like to make them feel better.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:Nah, I give them shots, I feel bad for how often I can beat them with my chopper game so I like to make them feel better.
Crow
Crow Person
Might the reason for a lot of this moaning from low h/cappers be that they can't cut the mustard in a scratch competition where they're playing against "proper" golfers?
So they feel hard done by and want a system where they can easily beat players who aren't as good as they are and so massage their egos??
So they feel hard done by and want a system where they can easily beat players who aren't as good as they are and so massage their egos??
Mungoscorner
Journeyman Pro
Is that so ?
What exactly is a "proper" golfer ?
At the end of the day,i'm sure those in the low cat 2's,and high cat 1's,would much rather be "almost there" rather than be "nowhere near".
Wayman
Tour Winner
To be honest about scratch events I know there will be no chance in hell I would win one but I play in the. For experience and to play a decent course for cheap green fees
Crow
Crow Person
Is that so ?
What exactly is a "proper" golfer ?
At the end of the day,i'm sure those in the low cat 2's,and high cat 1's,would much rather be "almost there" rather than be "nowhere near".
You're better placed than me to say what a "proper" golfer is, I merely used the term to differentiate from high handicappers as you seem so against playing with them.
If you're happy being "almost there" rather than a decent scratch golfer then that's fine, what I'd say is, to borrow a phrase from your mate,
ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
Just checked the results from the competition I played on Friday..........
The top 12 places in order were guys playing off 4, 12, 1, 4, 9, 5, 15, 9, 12, 7, 8, +1 (average handicap 7.1)
The bottom 12 places in reverse order were guys playing off 22, 18, 23, 13, 20, 24, 10, 11, 9, 22, 24, 18 (average handicap 17.8)
In the middle were handicaps of 12, 14, 13, 13, 6, 14, 13, 10, 12, 9, 10, 13, 7, 14, 22 (average handicap 12.1)
I know it's only one day of competition but this would suggest that the 3/4 handicap format does favour the lower handicappers.
The top 12 places in order were guys playing off 4, 12, 1, 4, 9, 5, 15, 9, 12, 7, 8, +1 (average handicap 7.1)
The bottom 12 places in reverse order were guys playing off 22, 18, 23, 13, 20, 24, 10, 11, 9, 22, 24, 18 (average handicap 17.8)
In the middle were handicaps of 12, 14, 13, 13, 6, 14, 13, 10, 12, 9, 10, 13, 7, 14, 22 (average handicap 12.1)
I know it's only one day of competition but this would suggest that the 3/4 handicap format does favour the lower handicappers.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
It suggets nothing of the sort, it suggets on the day it suited low handicappers. That could have been because of the scoring system, or it could have been per se the conditions, i dont know lets say cold wet windy long which may just have suited the lower cappers better than the higher ones.
Played 2 forum meets this week, could have told you after 3 or 4 holes at FofA that a lower capper would win (wet very long and tough) and after the same at TH that a higher capper would win (short, frozen greens), and on both counts i wasnt far away
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
Gotta love these threads. Shame this one has turned into handbags.
My point of view, for what it's worth:
In our competitions there might be 5 cat1 golfers, and 30 cat4 golfers (as well as the others inbetween).
Pick just 1 at random from each cat before play and the cat1 will most likely win 3/4 of the time, but there aren't just one of each or even numbers of each.
The probability is that 2 or 3 of the cat4's will have a good day and post a nett score that a cat1 is highly unlikely to beat even playing out of their skin.
It doesn't mean that comps are more suited to cat4's though. Individually they aren't likely to post a silly score. Collectively however, they are, so the cat1's are very unlikely to win anything.
I couldn't care less about winning anything, and I'm not cat1 anyway. I fancy my chances 1 on 1 against anyone higher than me at our club, but I also know that I'm unlikely to win anything against a full field.
My point of view, for what it's worth:
In our competitions there might be 5 cat1 golfers, and 30 cat4 golfers (as well as the others inbetween).
Pick just 1 at random from each cat before play and the cat1 will most likely win 3/4 of the time, but there aren't just one of each or even numbers of each.
The probability is that 2 or 3 of the cat4's will have a good day and post a nett score that a cat1 is highly unlikely to beat even playing out of their skin.
It doesn't mean that comps are more suited to cat4's though. Individually they aren't likely to post a silly score. Collectively however, they are, so the cat1's are very unlikely to win anything.
I couldn't care less about winning anything, and I'm not cat1 anyway. I fancy my chances 1 on 1 against anyone higher than me at our club, but I also know that I'm unlikely to win anything against a full field.
