Dispersion - I don't get it

[Three]

A bit like comparing a Dacia to a Merc S class. Both will get me from A to B but the Merc will do it quicker, more comfortably and more safely. If Mercedes are just 'getting me to pay more' then I'm happy to be ripped off.

That's a poor comparison.
There are tangible differences in performance, quality of components which is measurable based on reliability, durability and precision repetition. The safety measures that you allude to are also measurable.

Your measure of a "better" shaft seems to be based just on price.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

However, I went through a pretty exhaustive testing to find the right shaft for me.

Your measure of a "better" shaft seems to be based just on price.

OK, if you say so :thup:

 

[Three]

Often read posts on here where people say that their dispersion with X club was better than Y club. OK, that's fine but surely the only causes can be a) their swing or b) crap shaft in one of the clubs?

I have a top end shaft in my driver so if I tested a super whizzy new driver like an Epic and it had better dispersion then I would either be swinging badly with mine or very hacked off with my expensive shaft!

Just quoting what you wrote.

You're assuming that because you spent more money, your shaft must be "better" than a standard offering.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Absolutely nothing, it sums up my point exactly. However, I went through a pretty exhaustive testing to find the right shaft for me.

That's a poor comparison.
There are tangible differences in performance, quality of components which is measurable based on reliability, durability and precision repetition. The safety measures that you allude to are also measurable.

Your measure of a "better" shaft seems to be based just on price.

Just quoting what you wrote.

You're assuming that because you spent more money, your shaft must be "better" than a standard offering.

Yes that's correct, nothing at all to do with the trackman results

 

[Foxholer]

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You're assuming that because you spent more money, your shaft must be "better" than a standard offering.

Er...No!

That what YOU are assuming he's assuming!

Given that Driver heads are now all pretty much max-ed out and there was, supposedly, some exhaustive testig performed, I'd be a little puzzled about it too!

A vastly more expensive fitted shaft is likely, though not guaranteed, to have some benefits over a 'standard offering' one, but the standard offering could well still be a good to great, or maybe even a better, fit! My current Driver was actually purchased (and cheaply) BECAUSE the standard shaft was/is an 'old-man's shaft' with a profile I know I get on with - not particularly suitable for most players, but ideal for me!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Er...No!

That what YOU are assuming he's assuming!

Given that Driver heads are now all pretty much max-ed out and there was, supposedly, some exhaustive testig performed, I'd be a little puzzled about it too!

A vastly more expensive fitted shaft is likely, though not guaranteed, to have some benefits over a 'standard offering' one, but the standard offering could well still be a good to great, or maybe even a better, fit! My current Driver was actually purchased (and cheaply) BECAUSE the standard shaft was/is an 'old-man's shaft' with a profile I know I get on with - not particularly suitable for most players, but ideal for me!

Result! Somebody finally understands :thup:

 

[Three]

I have a top end shaft in my driver so if I tested a super whizzy new driver like an Epic and it had better dispersion then I would either be swinging badly with mine or very hacked off with my expensive shaft!

Er...No!

That what YOU are assuming he's assuming!

There's nothing to assume.

It's a very plain statement, "top end", "expensive " shaft, hence would be annoyed if an off the shelf performed better.
" Top end " has one meaning only in the this context, ie" I spent more money on it".

 

[Three]

Result! Somebody finally understands :thup:

"Finally "???

See posts 3 and 5 😉

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

There's nothing to assume.

It's a very plain statement, "top end", "expensive " shaft, hence would be annoyed if an off the shelf performed better.
" Top end " has one meaning only in the this context, ie" I spent more money on it".

How do you come to that conclusion?

 

[Three]

How do you come to that conclusion?

Because I can read English.

You describe your purchase as "top end" in the same breath as saying how expensive it was. "Top end" is your own view based on how much it cost.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Because I can read English.

You describe your purchase as "top end" in the same breath as saying how expensive it was. "Top end" is your own view based on how much it cost.

Just out of curiosity, would you say someone like Jordan Speith would use a 'top end' shaft or an 'expensive' shaft?

 

[Three]

Just out of curiosity, would you say someone like Jordan Speith would use a 'top end' shaft or an 'expensive' shaft?

What do you mean by "top end"?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

What do you mean by "top end"?

One that is consistent and reliable. Often more expensive as it will be manufactured to tighter tolerances.

 

[Three]

One that is consistent and reliable. Often more expensive as it will be manufactured to tighter tolerances.

Is there a ranking based on independent testing?

 

[TheDoctor]

I knew before I even clicked on the link that it would be to something by Tom Wishon and it gave me a laugh about shafts and dispersion considering some of the talk in this thread

If I wanted information on shafts there are far more knowledgeable people that I would go to over him

 

[hovis]

If I wanted information on shafts there are far more knowledgeable people that I would go to over him

please post a link. I'd like to have a read