Discrimination or not- !

[3offTheTee]

Tried to enter into a Competition at Prestwick St Nicholas Golf Club.

I was declined because the Club where I belong was not a member of The Scottish GU; the reason being my Club is in England.

Whilst I appreciate Prestwick is a good course and perhaps does not need the money it does seem a little ufair when more prestigous clubs accept 'us lot' from South of the border.

What are the chances of them changing their mind and what would you do?

 

[Dodger]

Tried to enter into a Competition at Prestwick St Nicholas Golf Club.

I was declined because the Club where I belong was not a member of The Scottish GU; the reason being my Club is in England.

Whilst I appreciate Prestwick is a good course and perhaps does not need the money it does seem a little ufair when more prestigous clubs accept 'us lot' from South of the border.

What are the chances of them changing their mind and what would you do?

Don't see it as that at all.....what if it had a maximum handicap of 3 and you are off 4?

Would you greet about that too?

 

[pbrown7582]

I think you are probaly correct if you've been refused entry because your home club is in England, but there are I believe slight differences to the handicap system so maybe this is the reasoning behind it?

 

[USER1999]

Are the golf unions not split? I thought the English and Welsh were unified, but the Scots still stood on their own. If so, then in this case, the comp is for people who are paid up members of the Scottich golf union, and you are not eligible. It isn't so much discrimination, more that you just don't qualify.

 

[patricks148]

Weird one this, i know Royal Dornoch and Nairn Both except EGU members for its comps. Even Tain last year had a 20 guys from Liverpool play in the Autumn open?

Don't know why, though Murphs response seems reasonable, i'm not sure that's the case!

 

[chrisd]

Bet they only found that rule after Saturday's rugby!!!

 

[3offTheTee]

Don't see it as that at all.....what if it had a maximum handicap of 3 and you are off 4?

Would you greet about that too?

That is totally irrelvant
The reason I would not be able to play is because of ability if I played off 4.
To take your argument further anyone could therefore enter for The Open, playing off 28 not only Maurice Flitcroft
How many other clubs act in this way?

 

[3offTheTee]

Are the golf unions not split? I thought the English and Welsh were unified, but the Scots still stood on their own. If so, then in this case, the comp is for people who are paid up members of the Scottich golf union, and you are not eligible. It isn't so much discrimination, more that you just don't qualify.

Not really Murph. I play in 5/6 per annum including Southerness/ Ladybank Roxburgh/The Glen. Kilmarnock Barasserie. 4 of those mentioned I would class as as good as Prestwick

 

[USER1999]

Fair enough, I know zip about golf north of the boarder. I always go on golfing holidays where the sun shines more than one day a year.

 

[sweatysock41]

I think you are probaly correct if you've been refused entry because your home club is in England, but there are I believe slight differences to the handicap system so maybe this is the reasoning behind it?

I thought all the home nations used the CONGU system (COmbined National Golf Union) therefore the system for calculating handicaps can't be the reason.

 

[rosecott]

I thought all the home nations used the CONGU system (COmbined National Golf Union) therefore the system for calculating handicaps can't be the reason.

Nearly right - it's the Council of National Golf Unions and, yes the SGU is part of it. I can't understand refusal of entry because your club is EGU and not SGU. There is a very slight difference between EGU and SGU in that SGU have a "starred handicap" system which is more or less the same as an inactive handicap. Apart from that both EGU and SGU administer handicaps in exactly the same way.

 

[JustOne]

but there are I believe slight differences to the handicap system so maybe this is the reasoning behind it?

Are you saying The Craw is really a 7 h/capper?

 

[rosecott]

Tried to enter into a Competition at Prestwick St Nicholas Golf Club.

I was declined because the Club where I belong was not a member of The Scottish GU; the reason being my Club is in England.

Whilst I appreciate Prestwick is a good course and perhaps does not need the money it does seem a little ufair when more prestigous clubs accept 'us lot' from South of the border.

What are the chances of them changing their mind and what would you do?

I assume it was an Open competition - Golf Empire says it doesn't have Open dates for Prestwick St Nicholas.

 

[bluetoon]

Seems a strange one this.
Played loads of opens and never heard this before, The bigger 5day events even attract international visitors, USA, Canada, Sweden, etc and all the home nations.

Never, ever heard anyone refused entry due to their Nationality

 

[Farneyman]

There is no Open at Prestwick St Nicholas but a competition for gofers with handicaps five or below from Scotland (mainly the west of Scotland) The Arrol Cup.

Let me know when your up and I will get you on for a game.

 

[Dodger]

That is totally irrelvant
The reason I would not be able to play is because of ability if I played off 4.
To take your argument further anyone could therefore enter for The Open, playing off 28 not only Maurice Flitcroft
How many other clubs act in this way?

How is it irrelevant?

Surely this,in your eyes,should be discrimination against higher handicappers?

Troon,I think it is,have one only open to Ayrshire Golf Union members and there are plenty others like this.It is simply a stipulated rule of the club hosting the event not 'discrimination'.

 

[Farneyman]

Just to confirm you can only play in the Arrol Cup if you are a member of a club in the West of Scotland. The rest of Scotland can GTF aswell ;-)

Not discrimination, just the rules of the competition.

 

[Iaing]

It sounds just like the Hillhouse Cup at Royal Troon which is only open to members of Ayrshire clubs.

It's not discrimination. I bet that there are quite a few competitions like this across the country.

 

[Tom C]

Tried to enter into a Competition at Prestwick St Nicholas Golf Club.

I was declined because the Club where I belong was not a member of The Scottish GU; the reason being my Club is in England.

Whilst I appreciate Prestwick is a good course and perhaps does not need the money it does seem a little ufair when more prestigous clubs accept 'us lot' from South of the border.

What are the chances of them changing their mind and what would you do?

Sad that they don't want your business. There are plenty good friendly clubs up here who will welcome you with open arms if you chose to play in there open comps.

 

[rosecott]

Tried to enter into a Competition at Prestwick St Nicholas Golf Club.

I was declined because the Club where I belong was not a member of The Scottish GU; the reason being my Club is in England.

Whilst I appreciate Prestwick is a good course and perhaps does not need the money it does seem a little ufair when more prestigous clubs accept 'us lot' from South of the border.

What are the chances of them changing their mind and what would you do?

Are you absolutely sure that it was an "Open" competition you were trying to enter? A member there says there is no Open there.