Diesel scrappage scheme

[chris3081]

Pretty soon 10-15 years solar and other renewables will make electricity completely non polluting. Battery technology is moving so fast that all you will need is the new instant charge technology that fills the battery the second the electric charger touches the connectors. Probably won't even get out the car. Car ownership probably will die out though as taxi/uber becomes so cheap with no driver or petrol to finance. It's not a question of if just when

 

[Bunkermagnet]

But no-one mentions the pollution, haz chem or enviromental impact of the producition of the batties
Anything elctric is purely stopgap, until fuel-cell technology is finally allowed to be taken forward.

 

[Alex1975]

Solar is moving so quickly that even in the U.K. we won't need the national grid in 10 years. Tesla launch their £30k model in oct 17. They sold 500,000 units pre-orders in 7 Days after the launch

Really?

 

[chris3081]

You'll get that with hydrogen cells as well surely? Besides why not have both. But where are the tesla of hydrogen? We're all waiting but nothing.

 

[Robster59]

I thought that continuous fast charging is detrimental to current battery technology in cars.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

You'll get that with hydrogen cells as well surely? Besides why not have both. But where are the tesla of hydrogen? We're all waiting but nothing.

Honda had fuel cell technology quite a few years ago, and Hyundai had four IX35 (now Tucson) running around over here until recently.

 

[chris3081]

http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/21/11477034/tesla-model-3-preorders-400000-elon-musk

Really?

 

[Rooter]

Hydrogen is still too expensive an option, its coming though, i am seeing early innovators in my industry look to Hydrogen Fuel Cells (HFC) for their critical backup source. That and Gas, people are moving away from the classic Diesel generator.

 

[drdel]

Refuelling is the big issue. A service station can refuel about 300 cars and hour. If they were all electric on a 30min fast charge you'd need a good few hectare to park them all !!

 

[Rlburnside]

I was in Norway last week and was told diesel cars have just been banned in Oslo.

 

[SocketRocket]

Surely the power stations needed to support the demand are not and will not be available. Even if we could build enough the pollution created in building and running these stations would be as bad as using existing fossil fuel cars.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Surely the power stations needed to support the demand are not and will not be available. Even if we could build enough the pollution created in building and running these stations would be as bad as using existing fossil fuel cars.

And of course we are forgetting the conspiracy theorists view of who supplies the fuel for the power stations?
No wonder the oil companies don't mind electric

 

[larmen]

Electric cars will be the future but they are not yet viable for the masses yet. But they will and should keep researching into that.

When I went to university our prof did show how the building of a solar cell took more energy than that cell was ever going to produce. Just a few years later that was outdated an they were positively contributing. No idea what the current energy ratio of a cell is. Maybe it's like computers and moore's law, doubling every 2 years. Maybe more or less. But enough to keep on it.

 

[Smiffy]

A Tesla salesman told me that all motorway service stations now have fast charge points which will half charge the car in 20 mins (and it's free!) which will get you another 130-140 miles so not all bad. I'm seriously going to consider the Model 3 as although still a lot of money the overall TCO is still very attractive.

You sure about this Gordon?
As far as I am aware, the fast charge points are controlled by EcoTricity and are free as long as you have your domestic supply via them. Otherwise it's a fiver mate.
And on a Leaf it will put a maximum of 80% charge in about 35 minutes which would be good for around 80 miles or so.

 

[larmen]

Just watched the last episode of 'The Grand Tour' where May was driving the i3 and they compared it to Clarksen in a GTI. Ignoring the compare, May still gave a little run down on the BMW.

Adding to what I wrote just above, I think once induction charging progresses further the car electric car market could start booming. You just drive into your garage and the car charges, you park in a supermarket and the car charges, ... . Years down the line maybe the road itself could top up your car.

 

[drdel]

^^^ just as long as you don't want to tour Scotland or other remote areas.