Deposits now required for Woburn 2013

[philly169]

So what time did the last few 4 balls go off last year and were they all off the 1st or are the tee's split between the 1st & 10th which I can't seem to find mentioned if they are? Also was last years event still in March before the clocks changed?

If the afternoon "starts" at 14.01 then the last few groups will go off at 14.40hrs, 14.48hrs and 14.56hrs assuming 8/10 minutes gap per group. Its at least a 4.5hr round I'm informed by a member friend so that's 6.30pm -7.30pm with no hold-ups!

Its been pitch black here since 6.30pm so I'm amazed if you did the same kind of tee off times and achieved getting showered, changed and drinking all before it got dark!

If its split tee's then reduce the variable by 30 minutes which means still in between 6.30pm best & 7pm!

I'd just like some more clarity as £135.00 is a lot of money to run out of light with holes to play!

There wasn't a problem with light this year, the marquess will be played first as its the longest.

 

[fundy]

I'm guessing it will be ok in 2013, I wasn't there this year but many were and have paid a deposit to play again, so I take that as they are all getting the golf in whilst it's still light

The fact that the clocks had gone forward the weekend before this years meet, but go forward the week after next years mean there is an hours less light, so I think Fish's question is very pertinent and it may well be worth double checking that we do have enough daylight or try to get slightly earlier tee times for both am and pm rounds.

I expect a first afternoon tee time of 2pm is going to be more than cutting it fine and the later groups will struggle to get finished before the light goes with sunset being just before 6.30pm.

PS Rob could you confirm you got my bank tfr plse

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Clocks not due to change until Sunday 31st March. When we played this year the clocks had changed on the 25th March so it is a valid point regarding the light if we don't get off early

 

[Smiffy]

Ooops! It would appear that I cocked up on my original planning of this trip. I assumed (incorrectly) that by booking right up at the end of March the clocks would have gone forward by the time the event came round. I didn't even think of checking with the diary.
****.

 

[Fish]

Phew thank god, I was beginning to feel a pain in the @rse and a killjoy with my concerns.

Assuming a field of 28 (7 x 4 balls) If we can get split tee's then that reduces the time by at least 30 minutes immediately with the 1st & 10th then starting between 8am & 8.30am, couple that with moving the afternoon forward by 30 minutes to start from 13.30hrs (split again) then it could be still achieved without too many hold ups, although still slightly tight.

The 2 course meal in-between the 2 rounds could possibly feel a little rushed based on a 4.5hr round leaving 1hr for lunch! Could it be possible to have soup and sandwiches at lunch to turn around quicker and then have a single main meal on return? That would still constitute a 2 course meal, as such?

I think that for £135.00 the above is still good value for Woburn who's prices now and before the clocks change is £55.00 per round with a member before 1pm and only £38.00 afterwards thus making a consolidated £83.00 for 2 rounds leaving £55.00 towards food!

I think if the tee's cannot be split then the meal has to be moved to the end as the turnaround will be too much of a rush for some.

 

[Smiffy]

I have inquired about moving the meal to the end before......they won't play ball

 

[Fish]

I have inquired about moving the meal to the end before......they won't play ball

Split tee's is a must then Smiffy as that reduces it by 30 minutes immediately, anything we can then get slightly earlier is a bonus on top!

How do you normally draw the 4 balls? With possible time (light) constraights it wouldn't be advisable to have 4 x 20+ handicappers in a single 4 ball, being one myself I know how blows I am capable of on a bad day! Would you divide the handicaps into groups such as 0>6/7>13/14>20/21>28 and then pick 1 person from each group?

I'm playing there on the 4th November at 12noon so I'll get an idea of the light then as I'll still be in the bar as it gets dark:thup:

 

[full_throttle]

Sorry I haven't replied before, just got in from work and the internet connection at work was down for 5 hours, throughout the two buildings.

I'll speak with Woburn about earlier tee times but I think if we have split tees then it may incur extra cost.

The groups will be sorted nearer the time but Fish, your suggestion makes sense, only problem is where guests are playing together and they all have higher range handicaps.

 

[Fish]

I'll speak with Woburn about earlier tee times but I think if we have split tees then it may incur extra cost.

Show some teethe Rob, were the customer and £6k+ over 2 days in receipts is an amount I don't think they would want to risk losing!

 

[full_throttle]

Here is an update to which deposits I have received

Wednesday

aroldarmchewer, warbur, fish, RichardC (x4), philthefragger, Hooper, whereditgo, imurg, fundy, rdiblasi (x4) 16 spaces paid for out of 27.

Thursday

full_throttle, rickg, murththemog, pbrown7582, lollfred (x2), socky, bigfoot, swingalot, rob2, scienceboy, wookie, mkdave, myoung19, fozzie, sybez

16 spaces paid for.

I am away next week and the deposit is due at Woburn by the last day of the month, still a lot of outstanding deposits and spaces avaliable.

I am still waiting on a few guys from Blackmoor to confirm one way or another, and I have a few cheques in the post.

 

[rickg]

The other option is to reduce the number of entrants........if you have spaces at the moment, then close those off and if you don't receive outstanding deposits by a certain date, then take those off as well.

 

[Fish]

The other option is to reduce the number of entrants........if you have spaces at the moment, then close those off and if you don't receive outstanding deposits by a certain date, then take those off as well.

I agree.

Working backwards from a potential in-time of 6.30pm and then back 4.5hrs means the "last" group needs to tee off at 14.00hrs meaning the PM start needs to be 13.20hrs based on 5 x 4 balls (20 players) at 8 minute intervals.

Then take off 1hr for lunch and a "last" morning in-time of 13.00 and you have a "last" group out AM of 08.20hrs and start at 7.40am!

All this is based on 4.5hr rounds. I have not played Woburn yet and you guys have but I am assured by a member friend of Woburn to allow "at least" 4.5 hours for a round.

What were your times around the course/s earlier this year?

 

[PhilTheFragger]

I think that for £135.00 the above is still good value for Woburn who's prices now and before the clocks change is £55.00 per round with a member before 1pm and only £38.00 afterwards thus making a consolidated £83.00 for 2 rounds leaving £55.00 towards food!

Actually its £42 a head, but 'd still be expecting a right royal banquet, for that price

Fragger

 

[full_throttle]

Gentlemen, thanks for your input, to be honest I hadn't even thought about daylight. I will leave the days open until I come back from my golf break. I'll be back Wednesday. After this date only those paid up are guaranteed, spaces will be avaliable if required to make up a tee time.

I have been unable to contact Wonurn, but will try again and continue trying until I get a result.

At present we have enough players for 5 tee times on Wednesday and 4 on Thursday. I have been messaged to say cheques are in the post, so I think I should mange to get 5 tee times on each day full.

Please continue to voice any concerns, and I'll do my best to provide any information I can


Robert

 

[chrisd]

I will post my cheque for a Wednesday asap (need to find the cheque book)



Cheers

 

[full_throttle]

UPDATE

Just come of the phone to the lady at Woburn.

First tee time on Wednesday is 0809, we have a rolling lunch, carvery and sweet, then follow that up with golf in the afternoon. I am now looking at 20 max per day which should allow us enough time to complete 36 holes with lunch.
Thursday is pretty much as Wednesday but with a slightly earlier first tee time off 0801.

Hope this helps clear up any confusion.

 

[Fish]

Rob, can you move me from Wednesday to Thursday please.

 

[mashleyR7]

i will pay my deposit sunday when im home and on the sofa, been in hospital all week with the wife, but im 10000% in for Wednesday. I'll run the last holes to get the light if i have too.

 

[full_throttle]

Fish, your now on Thursday

mashleyR7, Hope every thin works out,

chrisd, no problems, thanks for the heads up

 

[ScienceBoy]

UPDATE

Just come of the phone to the lady at Woburn.

we have a rolling lunch, carvery and sweet,

Remember I don't eat most meats, cant stand the texture of roast beef and pork chops, YUCK!