garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
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[video=youtube;P5udnQXNOZk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5udnQXNOZk[/video]
Saw no future in playing towards the hole. Lol
Deep Bunkers and Right to get Out of them
- Thread starter SwingsitlikeHogan
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:rofl:
[video=youtube;P5udnQXNOZk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5udnQXNOZk[/video]
Saw no future in playing towards the hole. Lol
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
i don't have any of our Bunkers on my phone at the moment, but even the easiest bunker on the course (fairway) is deeper than that
Kind of agree. I have to say SILH they do look quite fair (maybe even benign if this is an example of tough)
bobmac
Major Champion
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Not suggesting that they are unfair - simply that the green side faces are being built steeper than they were and where previously there was a roll-off down from the green level to the top of the face that is no longer there - the face goes all the way to green level - so they seem quite a bit deeper. Getting out is all about having and having confidence in a decent bunker technique. But that does not remove the initial 'blimey' reaction. Then you realise that your ball will run away from the face into the middle of the bunker so the impossible shot from tight to the face will be very rare.
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
So you had sand traps and now you have some bunkers....🤔
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
I'll not argue with that differentiation - even though I don't quite fully understand it. They weren't 'splash' bunkers before - they were real greenside bunkers - just that they have steeper and in most cases a slightly higher face - though the increase in height might only be a foot or so. Some of them do however induce 'North Face of the Eiger' type thoughts - though of course we are talking pampered and cossetted Surrey golfers
VVega
Assistant Pro
Ahh, Woodhall Spa the 5th? - a monster bunker considering the green is 12 yds wide
bobmac
Major Champion
Ahh, Woodhall Spa the 5th? - a monster bunker considering the green is 12 yds wide
Very close.
It is Woodhall Spa but it's the 12th and very similar
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Every time I've played the Hotchkin and been in a bunker I've got out in one. In my mind if I can do that on the Hotchkin, I can do that anywhere!!!
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This is a personal favourite
And from another angle - great fairway bunker
Foxholer
Blackballed
Been in a few deep/nasty ones(Wentworth West and Walton Heath both had/have plenty as do most links courses) and generally got out pretty well - even if sideways!
Key is clubhead speed (thinking accelerating through the shot!), along with manufacturing effective loft - by starting with highest loft wedge and (in my case) opening my stance up. In extreme cases, I may open the face up a small (tiny) amount but, for me, that introduces a risk of the hosel coming into play!
@SILH. Those faces don't really look all that difficult, provided green staff (and players of course) rake the sand properly. I'd suggest some sort of newsletter/page on website that documents the reasons for the change, options/technique for getting out and a reminder of how to rake them would be a positive bit of PR, compared with just presenting a fait accompli and letting members struggle, then moan about the change!
Key is clubhead speed (thinking accelerating through the shot!), along with manufacturing effective loft - by starting with highest loft wedge and (in my case) opening my stance up. In extreme cases, I may open the face up a small (tiny) amount but, for me, that introduces a risk of the hosel coming into play!
@SILH. Those faces don't really look all that difficult, provided green staff (and players of course) rake the sand properly. I'd suggest some sort of newsletter/page on website that documents the reasons for the change, options/technique for getting out and a reminder of how to rake them would be a positive bit of PR, compared with just presenting a fait accompli and letting members struggle, then moan about the change!
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SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Agree with you on all points
In fact the new 'china clay' (?) sand we are using actually makes playing bunker shots easier as you can play them the proper way as we all understand it to be (you can actually 'feel' the bounce as the clubhead goes into the sand behind and under the ball).
Our Pro and main teaching pro have recorded a video showing how to play out of the new bunkers; our head greenkeeper has done a video showing how we should rake the bunkers - especially on how to smooth the sand around the edge of the bunker so that balls have a good chance of rolling to the middle, and on 'direction of rake'; and our main teaching pro is running group lessons (£5 a throw) on playing out of them.
All sorted - and they look magnificent. Well - those that were done this last Winter Programme do - another two decent winters should see them all done.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
All about technique. If the fundamentals are correct, then it should be possible to get out of most bunkers, dependant on lie. A simple question, how many clubs have a decent practice bunker and how many actually go out and work on their technique regularly?
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Absolutely. The intention is that all of our bunkers are consistent (at the moment they are very variable) and that the type of sand encourages development of a sound bunker technique - a technique that will get us out of any of the bunkers (regardless of how deep or steep-of-face some might seem) unless we are very unlucky with where our ball ends up. To that end about a year ago we built a test 'new' bunker at the side of our practice chipping/pitching/bunker play - and our pros and head greenkeeper team are doing what I have mentioned that they are doing for us - vids and cheap (£5) group lessons.
AMcC
Journeyman Pro
Seems like the lie I had the other night
Seems like the lie I had the other night
thats not deep though, well maybe if you are 4ft tall:rofl:
Deep is when you can't see over the top.... i can't remember you being 8ft6:rofl:
