When I first tried the claw grip I was extremely doubtful that it would work, but actually it did. So no particular expectations!
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Curing the yips!
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PhilTheFragger
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GM What have you done to us?
Just see the production meeting
"Lets do a bit on the putting yips, That'll wake Del up and stir up the rest of the Forum"
Is it April 1st yet?
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Just see the production meeting
"Lets do a bit on the putting yips, That'll wake Del up and stir up the rest of the Forum"
Is it April 1st yet?
:ears::lol:
Up to a point I would be tempted to agree but there is nothing better than standing over a short putt knowing you've made a lot of these on the putting ground without an issue. I still think its a mental and not physical thing and for me, standing there and picturing a putt in practice going in will give positive images for the brain to react to and chances are produce a smooth stroke. You aren't going to make every one on the course but I still think you'll make more committed and better attempts
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GM What have you done to us?
Just see the production meeting
"Lets do a bit on the putting yips, That'll wake Del up and stir up the rest of the Forum"
Is it April 1st yet?
Guess what is in the mag next month
Bigger holes
chrisd
Major Champion
When I first tried the claw grip I was extremely doubtful that it would work, but actually it did. So no particular expectations!
Isnt that exactly what I'm saying??
chellie
Tour Winner
Haven't read all of the replies as lost the will to live somewhat but are the "yips" just being stabby and jerky with the putter
drewster
Tour Rookie
The yips don't exist. It's all psychological and an excuse for poor technique. I missed a sub 2 footer on Sunday for half in a winter league match . Could blame it on the yips but in reality the heart was beating faster , i knew i HAD to make it and i made a bad stroke - terrible in fact. Didn't even find the edge of the hole !!!
Basically yes, but players who yip putts will typically make a perfectly smooth practice stroke, followed by a horrible jerky stab at the ball when they have to do it for real. Generally rather painful to watch. Pressure usually makes this worse. A player who putts perfectly well on the practice green may yip if it's this one to win the hole, the match, or the club championship. It's often the 3 to 4 footers that you should really make that seem to cause the worst problems! :mmm:Haven't read all of the replies as lost the will to live somewhat but are the "yips" just being stabby and jerky with the putter
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How do you know it wasn't a yip?
Foxholer
Blackballed
Keep that thought and YOU will be fine!
YOU don't have the yips. And YOU have obviously not seen anyone who is afflicted with them!
And I don't believe you understand what the yips actually are! In the particular instance you mention, if you'd blamed it on the yips, it would have been a lie. As you stated, you just made a bad stroke. That's not what the yips are! Many Yippers would have struggled to even take the club back to make that stroke! And not just because it was 'important' either! The guy 'credited' with inventing the term (Tommy Armour) once had a 23 on one hole of a tournament because of them - though it was a Par 5!
richart
Major Champion
I have had the chipping yips. Gave up the game for a number of years because of them. When I was a kid I had the re-grippping problem that Garcia had. Absolute nightmare. Both problems just disappeared, and practice, technique whatever made no difference with the chipping.
chrisd
Major Champion
I always thought you chipped like Seve ................ oh no, sorry that was someone else!
richart
Major Champion
I had a chipping lesson today, and surprisingly the Pro said my technique was .... Practicing in the lounge, and so far apart from topping one past Monty, and a shank just past the TV it is looking good.I always thought you chipped like Seve ................ oh no, sorry that was someone else!
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
The Yips do exist
They can be highly debilitating for the sufferer.
Obviously I'm no expert but my take is the Yips are entirely psychological .
There is a fear of the consequence of missing a putt and it is this fear that causes the stabbing putt or the inability to take the putter back.
As Murphy says, it doesnt manifest on a practice stroke as there is no consequence, on a practice green there is no consequence.
Poor technique can lead to the fear of missing so sorting that issue could help to solve the problem.
Completely changing a style - Langer's broomhandle, Delc's claw, reduces the fear factor as there is less expectation.
With less expectation comes more actual success which in turn leads to more confidence which makes you a better putter.
I could, of course, have dreamed this up during a fit of pique caused by hooking another drive into the undergrowth.....
They can be highly debilitating for the sufferer.
Obviously I'm no expert but my take is the Yips are entirely psychological .
There is a fear of the consequence of missing a putt and it is this fear that causes the stabbing putt or the inability to take the putter back.
As Murphy says, it doesnt manifest on a practice stroke as there is no consequence, on a practice green there is no consequence.
Poor technique can lead to the fear of missing so sorting that issue could help to solve the problem.
Completely changing a style - Langer's broomhandle, Delc's claw, reduces the fear factor as there is less expectation.
With less expectation comes more actual success which in turn leads to more confidence which makes you a better putter.
I could, of course, have dreamed this up during a fit of pique caused by hooking another drive into the undergrowth.....
After playing nine holes this morning (it was pretty raw and windy, scored 16 points with one three putt and three one putts using the claw grip), I went out on the practice green to try out some of the exercises suggested in the GM article on the yips, using the conventional right hand below left reverse overlap putting grip. Allowed the putter face to open slightly in the back swing, instead of trying to keep it square to the line, and also tried the hover putting drill over the ball. I then tried various length putts, including the dreaded 3 - 4 footers, and I have to say it worked rather well. Only one putt felt a bit yippy and even that went in the hole. Thanks GM! :thup:
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For those who think there is no such thing as the yips:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1654754-ranking-the-10-worst-cases-of-the-yips-in-golf-history
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1654754-ranking-the-10-worst-cases-of-the-yips-in-golf-history
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CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
you said that you can't get yips on the practice green? That one putt that sas a "bit yippy" is called being an inconsistent amateur golferAfter playing nine holes this morning (it was pretty raw and windy, scored 16 points with one three putt and three one putts using the claw grip), I went out on the practice green to try out some of the exercises suggested in the GM article on the yips, using the conventional right hand below left reverse overlap putting grip. Allowed the putter face to open slightly in the back swing, instead of trying to keep it square to the line, and also tried the hover putting drill over the ball. I then tried various length putts, including the dreaded 3 - 4 footers, and I have to say it worked rather well. Only one putt felt a bit yippy and even that went in the hole. Thanks GM! :thup:
I could!
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drewster
Tour Rookie
How do you know it wasn't a yip?
Because just like ghosts, the tooth fairy, god and santa claus i don't believe they exist . I'm happy for anyone to believe they do for their own comfort , each to their own, but in my opinion it's psychological not physical. All in the mind .
Piece
Tour Winner
They do exist. As an ex-sufferer, I can vouch for that. Couldn't putt for two years and I will admit that a poor technique was the start of it. In my case, I couldn't take the club away when I wanted. When I did, it was involuntary, snatched and unpredictable. It didn't matter if it was 2ft or 20ft, the same condition. Nerves never really came into it.
I cured it by moved to a Odyssey two-ball, hovering the putter and quickening up the putting process. I would also add that its more of an anxiety/mental behavioural issue - your brain gets used to that sort of behaviour and it becomes the norm. Yip sufferers have to break the circle and retrain the brain.
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