Creating a ramp with a Spurk golf mat.

[clubchamp98]

Is that any different to someone teeing it up at the rear of the plastic mat to get a cleaner strike?

TBH I have never seen anyone do that.

If you did that with a Spurk mat you run the risk of hurting yourself or damaging your club as the sole is very solid and if anchored properly it won’t move.

I assume you can put the ball wherever you like on the mat as long as it’s flat on the ground.

 

[clubchamp98]

What difference does it make ?

Is the issue the fact the player has a better lie and has reduced the slope

Yes that was the issue as it was in a comp.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Yes that was the issue as it was in a comp.

But If doesn’t stop moving with the mat flat then what can the player do ?

And surely the slope isn’t that much of an issue when you consider the “prongs” at that deep

 

[clubchamp98]

But If doesn’t stop moving with the mat flat then what can the player do ?

And surely the slope isn’t that much of an issue when you consider the “prongs” at that deep

What you said in post #107.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

What you said in post #107.

So as I said what’s the difference- the slope will be negated either by moving the mat to someone else or placing the mat in a way it stops the ball moving

 

[Voyager EMH]

Shouldn’t be many tree roots in the cut areas that a mat is used!

Come to my club and I'll show you.

 

[PaulMdj]

TBH I have never seen anyone do that.

If you did that with a Spurk mat you run the risk of hurting yourself or damaging your club as the sole is very solid and if anchored properly it won’t move.

I assume you can put the ball wherever you like on the mat as long as it’s flat on the ground.

If you look at one of the plastic ones, similar to the pictures I posted, you can put the ball on the very back corner plugs and then use a Driver or Fairway etc as the ball sits as if it is on a tee, I’d say that is not using the mat as it is intended, but who’s to say.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I've been thinking about the possibility of a ball rolling up to and resting against a tree root. Preferred lies allows you to replace a few inches behind the tree root.
But the placing of a Spurk fairway mat behind the tree root elevates the ball considerably making the tree root less of an obstacle to get over.
Of course anyone who finds themself in this position will be able to do the same, so no one person is gaining an advantage over another.
The same goes for tilting the mat slightly. Everyone can do it so no one person gains an advantage over another.
Sidehill lie ball above the feet - press mat down well. Sidehill lie ball below feet - rest mat gently on the ground. Advantage being gained. But is it "unfairly" when everyone can do it.

The only issue, for me, is qualifying scores being allowed with these advantages.
The issue of "lie" of ball need not be considered, because the clear and obvious alignment aid should negate qualifying scores. (end of...)

Jet plane on a conveyor was far more interesting.

Why I think we do not permit their use for qualifying scores - though as mentioned mats are permitted in a match if ALL players agree.

 

[RichA]

Again though, it doesn’t say at the same depth! Having 3 spikes on one side fully pressed in and the 3 on the opposite only halfway in to make the mat level is not cheating or trying to gain an advantage it is simply to make the ball playable.

From Spurk website…
“Our patented golf mats benefit from a unique design, with a rigid body and 6 spikes that lock into the grass at an angle, providing a consistent stable surface and resulting in a strike without compromise.”

It seems pretty clear that the all spikes, not just half of them, are intended to by fully pressed into the ground to provide the “consistent stable surface” for when you hit it with a golf club at 80mph.

Bearing in mind that there is a rule for these circumstances with an instruction that we must follow, I would have thought that creating one’s own workaround that ignores that rule and improves the lie or stance was at least against the spirit of the game.

It’s weird that some of the same folks who have in the past derided others who have suggested common sense workarounds to the rules are ok with this.

 

[PaulMdj]

From Spurk website…
“Our patented golf mats benefit from a unique design, with a rigid body and 6 spikes that lock into the grass at an angle, providing a consistent stable surface and resulting in a strike without compromise.”

It seems pretty clear that the all spikes, not just half of them, are intended to by fully pressed into the ground to provide the “consistent stable surface” for when you hit it with a golf club at 80mph.

Bearing in mind that there is a rule for these circumstances with an instruction that we must follow, I would have thought that creating one’s own workaround that ignores that rule and improves the lie or stance was at least against the spirit of the game.

It’s weird that some of the same folks who have in the past derided others who have suggested common sense workarounds to the rules are ok with this.

I’m sure your last paragraph isn’t aimed at me so I’ll ignore it.

Back to your other point, again, you obviously haven’t used one as they do not need to be fully pressed to enable a suface to play the ball off.