Correcting a push slic

[chrisd]

The ball starts in the direction of the clubface.

The stat I read is that the ball starts, at least 85%, in the direction of the club face, so this makes Bob and Jimboo as correct as you need to be.

 

[bobmac]

The stat I read is that the ball starts, at least 85%, in the direction of the club face, so this makes Bob and Jimboo as correct as you need to be.

That is correct but I was trying to keep it simple

 

[pokerjoke]

That is correct but I was trying to keep it simple

Welcome back Bob

 

[Jimbooo]

I would not teach that


Wrong, it means the clubface is pointing right


Wrong, the fade part is then caused by an out to in swing.


Wrong. If you have an out to in swing and you roll your hands over, you're likely to hit a smother/pull hook.

Try this......
Take your putter and a ball. Swing the putter towards the hole but point the putter face 6ft right of the target.
The ball starts in the direction of the clubface.

 

[chrisd]

That is correct but I was trying to keep it simple

I don't post much on swing matters and just wanted to be a cleverdick!

Good to see you post Bob!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

So....what are you guys saying......it's possible to hit a draw WITHOUT an in to out swingpath?

 

[SGC001]

Hi,
in recent weeks I have developed a push slice with my driver, any advice on how best to correct this would be most welcome.

Out of interest what other shots do you hit either with your driver or other golf clubs?

 

[chrisd]

So....what are you guys saying......it's possible to hit a draw WITHOUT an in to out swingpath?

Spot on, you've not paid attention to the NEW BALL FLIGHT LAWS have you Gordon?

It about swing path relative to face angle, angle of attack also has a part to play.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

OK......someone explain to me how to hit a draw without swinging in to out please?

 

[SocketRocket]

OK......someone explain to me how to hit a draw without swinging in to out please?

You are kinda right there Gordon. :thup:

The balls initial flight will be in the direction the clubface is pointing.

To create draw spin the swingpath has to be right of the clubface direction.

To create a push draw you need the clubface slightly open and the swingpath slightly more right.

If the clubface is slightly shut at impact and the swingpath is square to target you will get a pull draw.

And so on and so forth.

 

[garyinderry]

these things all hold true... as long as you are hitting slap bang in the middle of the face. toe and heel hits kick in gear effect.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

You are kinda right there Gordon. :thup:

The balls initial flight will be in the direction the clubface is pointing.

To create draw spin the swingpath has to be right of the clubface direction.

To create a push draw you need the clubface slightly open and the swingpath slightly more right.

If the clubface is slightly shut at impact and the swingpath is square to target you will get a pull draw.

And so on and so forth.

Thank you Brian, at last someone talking sense :thup:

 

[bobmac]

OK......someone explain to me how to hit a draw without swinging in to out please?

No-one said anything about that ????
You said

'If you are starting the ball to the right it means you are swinging in to out'

You cannot make that assumption. The swing path could be straight or even out to in and the ball could still start to the right if the clubface is pointing to the right.

Then based on that incorrect assumption that he is swinging in to out you said

'If you can learn to gently roll your hands over through the hitting zone you will turn your push slice into a draw'

While that may be true if he was swinging in to out, you cannot give that advice unless you know for certain he is swinging in to out.
If you give that advice to someone who is swing out to in, they wouldn't stand a chance of hitting a draw.

If you still don't believe the new ball flight laws, look them up.

 

[Beezerk]

Kick a football normally and it goes straight.
Kick across the ball and it starts in the direction you aimed it and swerves after a while due to the side spin you've put on it.
Think about how Beckham used to take a freekick, he didn't change his foot to ball impact angle as such it was more his angle of attack which caused so much bend.
Seemples.

 

[chrisd]

Kick a football normally and it goes straight.
Kick across the ball and it starts in the direction you aimed it and swerves after a while due to the side spin you've put on it.
Think about how Beckham used to take a freekick, he didn't change his foot to ball impact angle as such it was more his angle of attack which caused so much bend.
Seemples.

Slightly different surely. The football will slde spin whereas a golf ball only backspins, it's the axis that tilts to create side ways movement. Unless I'm wrong as usual!

 

[SocketRocket]

Slightly different surely. The football will slde spin whereas a golf ball only backspins, it's the axis that tilts to create side ways movement. Unless I'm wrong as usual!

Your spot on.

 

[richy]

So a football can side spin but a golf ball can only backspin on different axes?

 

[Beezerk]

Slightly different surely. The football will slde spin whereas a golf ball only backspins, it's the axis that tilts to create side ways movement. Unless I'm wrong as usual!

So when the axis tilts it spins which way?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Slightly different surely. The football will slde spin whereas a golf ball only backspins, it's the f ballaxis that tilts to create side ways movement. Unless I'm wrong as usual!

You are correct 100% - a golf ball can only spin backwards

 

[richy]

You are correct 100% - a golf ball can only spin backwards

Why is a football different?