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Lord Tyrion said:
Me too

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ies-exempt-without-list-air-bridges-news/amp/

Check the date. I don't think it has been lifted at all since introduced for Portugal
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That's what I thought. So I had root canal and a temporary filling which needed completion asap and they tell me he can't fit me in until 23rd September. Flipping joke. Pay privately and paid all through lockdown with a broken tooth and no treatment (or refunds) and now this...he's a good dentist but it's pretty damned poor.
 
Ethan said:
Looks like it has been in place since early July. Perhaps something changed for people arriving in Portugal, or they were led to believe that the rules for people coming back into the UK would be lifted.
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I think you are being kind. That is quite some gamble to take, quarantine hopefully being lifted. Mmmmmmmm
 
Has Test and Trace changed track to what some have been saying for months that it should be - or was it always the plan to make redundant 6000 recently employed on the scheme and shift the focus of the scheme to local test and tracing.

If this has always been the plan for the 'world beating' T&T scheme then I'm wondering why we haven't heard of it before - or indeed why the boss of Serco didn't seem to know anything about the plan when interviewed in the last couple of weeks. Or do we all actually know what has happened, and some of us knew how 'world beating' the system was - but government ministers would prefer to not have to tell us this. And they wonder why some have doubts about them and their competency.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Has Test and Trace changed track to what some have been saying for months that it should be - or was it always the plan to make redundant 6000 recently employed on the scheme and shift the focus of the scheme to local test and tracing.

If this has always been the plan for the 'world beating' T&T scheme then I'm wondering why we haven't heard of it before - or indeed why the boss of Serco didn't seem to know anything about the plan when interviewed in the last couple of weeks. Or do we all actually know what has happened, and some of us knew how 'world beating' the system was - but government ministers would prefer to not have to tell us this. And they wonder why some have doubts about them and their competency.
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Local PHE has been doing most of the work even since NHS Test and Trace has been claiming the credit. Would have been better to scrap it altogether and tell Dido to take a hike but it is a step in the right direction.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I note that the English education minister has followed John Swinney's move on exam passes.
I wonder if Unionist supporters will now also call for his resignation.
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I don't think they have. His, John Swinney, change is to go off the teachers prediction, even if that is inflated. The English exams have been marked and will not be altered. What they have changed is that if you feel your mark is too low the grounds for appeal has been expanded to allow your mock exam results to be included, they previously were not. It is a compromise but not a collapse, which I would suggest the Scottish decision was.

There was a very straight talking head of colleges association on the news this morning who spoke very well about this. He was critical of the Scottish decision as universities and employees will now see the Scottish results as flawed in comparison to those in England. That is unfair on Scottish students but a consequence of the decision yesterday. He was not a politician, not looking to score points. To be fair, you raised this yesterday I believe.

Of course, Gavin Williamson could go into full reverse tomorrow and match Swinney once the results are out. It all depends on any outcry, are the results deemed unfair?

The people I know who are stressing about tomorrow are the ones who bob along and cram at the last minute for the exams. Not possible this year. They will not be saved by this change in England as the mocks come too early for them, 'they are only mocks, they don't count'. They do this year though.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
The people I know who are stressing about tomorrow are the ones who bob along and cram at the last minute for the exams. Not possible this year. They will not be saved by this change in England as the mocks come too early for them, 'they are only mocks, they don't count'. They do this year though.
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To muddy the waters even further, I didn't realise until this morning that mock exams are not consistent throughout the country, so a mock exam in school A could be considerably harder or easier than a mock exam in school B.
My daughter is generally a straight A student in most exams throughout her school life, she did really poorly in her mocks, can't remember the exact results. Then I hear most teachers make mocks harder for pupils who excel to make them try even harder for the final exam push, and the opposite for pupils who are struggling, give them an easier mock exam to boost their confidence.
I think I'm more nervous about this than my daughter ?
 
Beezerk said:
To muddy the waters even further, I didn't realise until this morning that mock exams are not consistent throughout the country, so a mock exam in school A could be considerably harder or easier than a mock exam in school B.
My daughter is generally a straight A student in most exams throughout her school life, she did really poorly in her mocks, can't remember the exact results. Then I hear most teachers make mocks harder for pupils who excel to make them try even harder for the final exam push, and the opposite for pupils who are struggling, give them an easier mock exam to boost their confidence.
I think I'm more nervous about this than my daughter ?
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More worrying is that the DfE may not have either.
 
Beezerk said:
To muddy the waters even further, I didn't realise until this morning that mock exams are not consistent throughout the country, so a mock exam in school A could be considerably harder or easier than a mock exam in school B.
My daughter is generally a straight A student in most exams throughout her school life, she did really poorly in her mocks, can't remember the exact results. Then I hear most teachers make mocks harder for pupils who excel to make them try even harder for the final exam push, and the opposite for pupils who are struggling, give them an easier mock exam to boost their confidence.
I think I'm more nervous about this than my daughter ?
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Absolutely. Some try to scare their pupils into working harder for the main exams as you say. It is usually a useful trick without damaging consequences. They are also not externally assesed so how can that work fairly in this situation? Mocks should be part of the equation, they have to work from something, but only part of it. It is a tough year for kids and parents, not of their doing.

I hope your daughter gets what she needs. As we have always told our two, each qualification is a stepping stone to the next stage. Marks are forgotten once you have moved on.
 
So how long until the 1st reopened school (eg Glasgow opens today) closes?

Say 1,000 kids attending, only 1 pupil or teacher gets covid testing positive, school shuts, all those kids then self isolate for 2 weeks as do all their family/household members?

I've got a bit behind with the rules etc, news burnout, but is that right or close to right or will everyone get tested individually in that scenario rather than a blanket closure?

My youngest goes back tomorrow, eldest on Monday so half expecting this to go south quickly..

See NZ Auckland has shut schools with their tiny covid re-occurence.
 
Friend playing with last night is having to cancel a holiday to Spain. Why? Because they are going to Guernsey (F-i-L 80th birthday) within a couple of days of their planned return from Spain. But as they would have to be in quarantine for two weeks after returning from Spain they wouldn't be able to travel to Guernsey. So Spain is having to be cancelled.
 
gmc40 said:
It sure does!

1. Read the article

2. Understand the information within

3. Post the correct figures.

Simples!
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The original response was in relation to comparing NZ to the UK. The exact size of the region of Liverpool and/or Manchester does not change the basic incompatibility of NZ and UK.
 
funkycoldmedina said:
That's a fantastic article, well worth taking the time to read. Thanks for sharing.

For those on the right of politics on here it's not a skewering of Johnson but more a comprehensive review of what has gone wrong and why.
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It's an opinion that has some pertinent points and some questionable ones. We are free to agree with what suits us.
 
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