Coronavirus - political views - supporting or otherwise...

[SocketRocket]

Who knows - the reality of life trading under WTO rules might taste very sweet indeed.

Though it is a pity that Johnson didn't actually understand fully what that implied 3 years after the referendum. I could draw from that that he didn't consider such a scenario as being very likely and so didn't bother to gen up on it for the TP leadership contest - I could but I won't - besides - WTO rules is all detail stuff and why he gathers the best people around him....which he has done...hasn't he...

Anyway - fish - and blue passports - oh...and sovereignty - hurrah! Oh I really must get over it...it's done (and it's in another thread)

Get over it

 

[SocketRocket]

I don't blame anyone - and indeed that is not the point - I think the point is very clear. If you lose your job now or in the coming (many) months it might be rather difficult to get another - and perhaps not quite as 'easy' as it might have been not 6 months ago.

And with work harder to come by, many more than would otherwise have been be expected in 2020, will find themselves dependent upon the state - and that is something that the government needs to be cognisant of whatever policies it brings forward in the coming months, and potentially the coming few years.

Oh, I see. Brexit is responsible for Corona virus

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Glad they have said no stat sick pay if you have to come home and quarantine..

My work don't pay either..

They see it as a choice to travel aboard.. so tough really

Correct

It's too risky ..

This is for me one of the most disappointing things about the handling of things during covid (that aren't covid itself)

We are rushing back to "normal" rather than making changes that could have a new way of life that might help other issues aswell

 

[Foxholer]

I don't blame anyone - and indeed that is not the point - I think the point is very clear. If you lose your job now or in the coming (many) months it might be rather difficult to get another - and perhaps not quite as 'easy' as it might have been not 6 months ago.

And with work harder to come by, many more than would otherwise have been be expected in 2020, will find themselves dependent upon the state - and that is something that the government needs to be cognisant of whatever policies it brings forward in the coming months, and potentially the coming few years.

Oh, I see. Brexit is responsible for Corona virus

Please explain how you made that leap from the post you quoted! SILH made no such allegation/suggestion/inference!

 

[rudebhoy]

Oh, I see. Brexit is responsible for Corona virus

A ridiculous post, even by your standards.

 

[SocketRocket]

Please explain how you made that leap from the post you quoted! SILH made no such allegation/suggestion/inference!

Oh yes, I seem to have got into Brexit mode from other posts and went off half cocked. Sorry for that.

 

[SocketRocket]

A ridiculous post, even by your standards.

Opportunist twaddle, even by your standards. ?

 

[rudebhoy]

Opportunist twaddle, even by your standards. ?

What does that even mean?

Am getting worried about you, yesterday the Nazis were socialists, today you accuse a poster of blaming Covid on Brexit, when his post suggested nothing of the sort. Are you getting enough sleep?

 

[Foxholer]

...
Am getting worried about you.... Are you getting enough sleep?

He reads my posts, so must be!

 

[SocketRocket]

What does that even mean?

Am getting worried about you, yesterday the Nazis were socialists, today you accuse a poster of blaming Covid on Brexit, when his post suggested nothing of the sort. Are you getting enough sleep?

It means you are being opportunist in looking for any reason to post silly insults, its immature and ugly. Just worry about yourself I am sure you have enough insecurities to fix.

 

[rudebhoy]

It means you are being opportunist in looking for any reason to post silly insults, its immature and ugly. Just worry about yourself I am sure you have enough insecurities to fix.

5 insults in a two sentence post, that could be a record

It's a discussion board. I responded to a comment of yours which was patently ridiculous - is that really being "opportunist"?

I have been ignoring your posts for the last few weeks as all you want to do is snipe at posters who don't share your view of the world, but I stupidly got drawn in by your Nazi = Socialist trolling yesterday. Lesson learned, I'll stop biting.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

LOL. Merging two recent themes of discussion on here - maybe the Tories are going to have to morph into something akin to a socialist party as they look to help and support those who have lost, or will be losing, their jobs and find themselves stuck on UC as they are unable to get a job...and find themselves - despite themselves - depending upon the state to support their families - and get them back into work...After all - Sunak has been throwing money about as if he were a socialist - with his largesse going to pretty much one and all - though unfortunately missing out some who really need it whilst making rather content some who really don't.

We are of course going to have to start paying for it down the line, and I cant see that simply cutting public spending or international aid will be enough. Tax rises anyone?

 

[Swinglowandslow]

LOL. Merging two recent themes of discussion on here - maybe the Tories are going to have to morph into something akin to a socialist party as they look to help and support those who have lost, or will be losing, their jobs and find themselves stuck on UC as they are unable to get a job...and find themselves - despite themselves - depending upon the state to support their families - and get them back into work...After all - Sunak has been throwing money about as if he were a socialist - with his largesse going to pretty much one and all - though unfortunately missing out some who really need it whilst making rather content some who really don't.

We are of course going to have to start paying for it down the line, and I cant see that simply cutting public spending or international aid will be enough. Tax rises anyone?

Are you serious?
After all the spending the government have done, as you describe above, do you seriously doubt that there will be tax rises down the line?
Of course there will be. It is expected and it will be a correct thing for the government to do. The arguments will start over who should pay how much?.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Are you serious?
After all the spending the government have done, as you describe above, do you seriously doubt that there will be tax rises down the line?
Of course there will be. It is expected and it will be a correct thing for the government to do. The arguments will start over who should pay how much?.

Indeed...so when asked the Tax Rise question, any minister worth his salt might as well just state that very self-evident expectation - if not fact. That they will, however, continue to avoid giving a straight answer to the tax rise question does nothing for their credibility and our belief in anything they might say. Maybe they think we're stupid.

 

[Hobbit]

Indeed...so when asked the Tax Rise question, any minister worth his salt might as well just state that very self-evident expectation - if not fact. That they will, however, continue to avoid giving a straight answer to the tax rise question does nothing for their credibility and our belief in anything they might say. Maybe they think we're stupid.

But Sunak has already stated there’ll need to be tax rises. Further, both yesterday and today he has spoken about a new tax for online sales.

May be others have dodged the question but he hasn’t.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Are you serious?
After all the spending the government have done, as you describe above, do you seriously doubt that there will be tax rises down the line?
Of course there will be. It is expected and it will be a correct thing for the government to do. The arguments will start over who should pay how much?.

Of course. Anything to spread the lies and cover up the government are perpetuating during the whole crisis on any given subject from holiday advice, restarting the economy to tax rises. The arguments presented are morphing into one.

Of course we'll get tax rises and the government have actually been quite open about it especially the Chancellor. People won't like it (they never do) but given what has been done to try and keep as many people getting some form of income per month and trying as best they can to keep the country afloat I don't think the government has done badly and people need to be realistic that their furlough money etc has to be recouped from somewhere.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

But Sunak has already stated there’ll need to be tax rises. Further, both yesterday and today he has spoken about a new tax for online sales.

May be others have dodged the question but he hasn’t.

Actually I think I may have heard Sunak say something about that - but others do avoid and have not really been that open about tax rises of any sort - property tax anyone? I am not sure I've heard Johnson tell of tax rises to come - as I suspect they have been told to not answer the question...but just allow Sunak to say it as he can use up some of the political capital he has built up in the public through his 'keeping us afloat' measures...

 

[Hobbit]

Actually I think I may have heard Sunak say something about that - but others do avoid and have not really been that open about tax rises of any sort - property tax anyone? I am not sure I've heard Johnson tell of tax rises to come - as I suspect they have been told to not answer the question...but just allow Sunak to say it as he can use up some of the political capital he has built up in the public through his 'keeping us afloat' measures...

To be fair, I'd expect others to be vague. They aren't the chancellor. All you would need is for some other MP/Minister to say something about tax rises. The interviewer asks a follow up question, and god knows where it could lead - an MP or minister floating an idea that the chancellor isn't in favour of. Then you'd see the chancellor appear to be back tracking over something that was never on the agenda anyway.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Actually I think I may have heard Sunak say something about that - but others do avoid and have not really been that open about tax rises of any sort - property tax anyone? I am not sure I've heard Johnson tell of tax rises to come - as I suspect they have been told to not answer the question...but just allow Sunak to say it as he can use up some of the political capital he has built up in the public through his 'keeping us afloat' measures...

I can't make up my mind from your two last answers whether you are saying that Ministers ( excluding Sunak who you may have heard) have said anything about future tax and avoided saying that there will be tax rises, or that you think they will avoid when asked.
Perhaps you would do better to direct us to an instance ( or more) where they have?
Which would be better than making what might be seen as snide innuendos as to what those you readily attack may do.

For clarity, it is wrong of them if they have denied saying there will be rises,or avoided saying so.
It would also be naively foolish to do so knowing that Sunak, the Head financial guy, is readily saying there will be.

 

[Old Skier]

But Sunak has already stated there’ll need to be tax rises. Further, both yesterday and today he has spoken about a new tax for online sales.

May be others have dodged the question but he hasn’t.

You don’t expect SILH to actually listen to what’s being said. He might learn something.