Coronavirus - political views - supporting or otherwise...

[Beezerk]

Go on, explain. Your irony meter may have been set wrongly.

Your post, to me anyway, seemed quite shouty, ranty, angry man with a few personal digs thrown in for good measure. The thing you seem to suggest only comes from Brexiteers ??‍

 

[Ethan]

Your post, to me anyway, seemed quite shouty, ranty, angry man with a few personal digs thrown in for good measure. The thing you seem to suggest only comes from Brexiteers ??‍

You have it wrong. I was just responding to you in the language you seem to understand. One of the basics of communication.

 

[Beezerk]

You have it wrong. I was just responding to you in the language you seem to understand. One of the basics of communication.

Must just be me who read it wrong then ?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

It wasn't an election, It was a consultative (aka pre-legislative, or in Brexiter language, advisory) referendum. If you don't know the difference between those, you really should just stay quiet.

Enjoy all the devastation that this will bring to the country. Just remember to accept responsibility for it, although you probably won't because most Brexiters are all mouth and no trousers.

if you have any examples of delusional rants made by Remainers, do tell. There is a massive list of lies told by Brexiters. Wanna hear a few?

Is there a direct link between brexitors and non mask wearers? I mean they don't like someone else telling them what to do.. just an observation from those on twitter who are against them.

 

[Ethan]

Is there a direct link between brexitors and non mask wearers? I mean they don't like someone else telling them what to do.. just an observation from those on twitter who are against them.

Oh yes, and to a lesser extent, anti-vaxx too.

 

[Foxholer]

Also, this thing is not going to go away for a while. But hang on we still have pneumonia which kills people, and a load of other stuff that kills, it's about time we stood up and said "nutz to it, let us take ours chances".

Yep! That's (one of) the way(s) C19 eventually kills! And FWIW, it's what was eventually cause-of-death for my Ex several (5) years ago.
Perhaps you meant influenza!
And your suggestion is simply daft for so many reasons! Having 'Crazy' as part of your handle is entirely appropriate!

 

[Deleted member 21258]

Is there a direct link between brexitors and non mask wearers? I mean they don't like someone else telling them what to do.. just an observation from those on twitter who are against them.

Oh yes, and to a lesser extent, anti-vaxx too.

What are you two talking about....

 

[Foxholer]

Is there a direct link between brexitors and non mask wearers? I mean they don't like someone else telling them what to do.. just an observation from those on twitter who are against them.

I wouldn't call it a 'direct link', so much as an 'associated attribute'. It does seem that 'independence' is the umbrella emotion. Similar to the way those who defy such reason in US are more likely to be Republicans than Democrats.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Oh yes, and to a lesser extent, anti-vaxx too.

Ah yes the crazys

Not saying all brexit voters are crazy ofc but all crazys seem to be the type who anti vax.. anti mask.. anti EU ... Covid is fake type

 

[DanFST]

Oh yes, and to a lesser extent, anti-vaxx too.

Some posters may struggle to put on a mask, with their heads being firmly lodged up their own backsides.

 

[drdel]

It wasn't an election, you fool. It was a consultative (aka pre-legislative, or in Brexiter language, advisory) referendum. If you don't know the difference between those, you really should just stay quiet.

Enjoy all the devastation that your braindead bigotry will bring to the country. Just remember to accept responsibility for it, although you probably won't because most Brexiters are all mouth and no trousers.

if you have any examples of delusional rants made by Remainers, do tell. There is a massive list of lies and bullshit told by Brexiters. Wanna hear a few?

Why the constant ranting language and insults against those who dare to disagree.

You may have not noticed but the global economy is fluctuating. The UK is in a relatively good state. Having left the EU we have better levers of control with our own currency and the BOE to address the consequences of COVID and Brexit.

Perhaps we could get back on subject and trying to treat others with respect.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Why the constant ranting language and insults against those who dare to disagree.

You may have not noticed but the global economy is fluctuating. The UK is in a relatively good state. Having left the EU we have better levers of control with our own currency and the BOE to address the consequences of COVID and Brexit.

Perhaps we could get back on subject and trying to treat others with respect.

I don’t agree with Ethan’s choice of language, but once again I can’t see anybody but him responding to another posters choice of language, ie, “insane delusional rants of idiotic Remainers” or is it ignored when we agree with the insult and language used?

 

[Ethan]

Why the constant ranting language and insults against those who dare to disagree.

You may have not noticed but the global economy is fluctuating. The UK is in a relatively good state. Having left the EU we have better levers of control with our own currency and the BOE to address the consequences of COVID and Brexit.

Perhaps we could get back on subject and trying to treat others with respect.

You are a bit of a hypocrite, aren’t you? In an earlier thread you impugned my professional credentials, without stating your own, but when I called you on it, you slunk off and said nothing. And now you lecture me on respect?

If you don’t like what I write, and you haven’t the Titleists to respond to the substance, then show your disapproval by ignoring it

The U.K. economy is not in a good state. It is expected to do worst of major European economies, it has already well ahead in terms of decline. Adding Brexit to Covid is utterly reckless and will cause untold unnecessary damage. As for our currency, we were never in the Euro and had control of our currency, for all the good it did.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Listening to Matt Hancock this morning explaining the 'Northern Restrictions' - I wish he had sounded more sure of what he was saying - he was often really hesitant when questioned.

If there is one minister I still have some residual faith in in respect of understanding the pandemic then it is he (Sunak has done what he basically had to do)...and so when Hancock sounds like he's struggling I do find that a real concern. If he struggles to explain things simply and clearly, then what hope has the public got of understanding all the IF...THEN..ELSE scenarios. I heard reported this morning a survey that has found that 14% of those asked felt they fully understood the rules. And that's really not good.

At least Hancock was clear on one thing - that there is going to be a real push on the Public Information front - to ram the message home to us all. Hopefully it will focus on the basics of what we all MUST be doing at the moment - just leave the various scenarios aside for the moment.

Because many if not most of the folks sitting at tables outside the town pub that me and my Mrs walked past last night did not seem to be obeying the basic rules...of social distancing and masks. That might not matter at the moment in my town as virus in the community might be very low. But if the virus gets into our community - and we won't know it's there until it's blowing up - the behaviours we saw last night could well result in problems.

 

[Deleted member 21258]

I don’t agree with Ethan’s choice of language, but once again I can’t see anybody but him responding to another posters choice of language, ie, “insane delusional rants of idiotic Remainers” or is it ignored when we agree with the insult and language used?

Thought I would mention ethan posted this first :-

I think the timing is spectacularly unfortunate, although avoidable. An economy that is buggered by external events may be even more vulnerable to lasting damage by additional unnecessary ones. Any responsible Govt, even a rabble of feral Brexiters, should extend to spare the extra damage which will affect the poor much more than the hedge fund traders.

I would suggest reading the thread in original and with an open mind.

BTW I am not saying two wrongs make a right....

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Listening to Matt Hancock this morning explaining the 'Northern Restrictions' - I wish he had sounded more sure of what he was saying - he was often really hesitant when questioned.

If there is one minister I still have some residual faith in in respect of understanding the pandemic then it is he (Sunak has done what he basically had to do)...and so when Hancock sounds like he's struggling I do find that a real concern. If he struggles to explain things simply and clearly, then what hope has the public got of understanding all the IF...THEN..ELSE scenarios. I heard reported this morning a survey that has found that 14% of those asked felt they fully understood the rules. And that's really not good.

At least Hancock was clear on one thing - that there is going to be a real push on the Public Information front - to ram the message home to us all. Hopefully it will focus on the basics of what we all MUST be doing at the moment - just leave the various scenarios aside for the moment.

The big “cock up” that was made in respect of the latest “lockdown” imo, was releasing it on twitter late at night.

Is that really the way a Government should be releasing the decision and information to those affected by it, surely a news conference or a press release is more appropriate than a series of “tweets”

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Thought I would mention ethan posted this first :-



I would suggest reading the thread in original and with an open mind.

BTW I am not saying two wrongs make a right....

And as I said, I didn’t and don’t agree with Ethan’s language, but all responses since have been one sided when the response to his initial post was just as bad and very unlikely to calm the waters.

To use another cliche “it takes two to tango”

 

[Ethan]

Thought I would mention ethan posted this first :-



I would suggest reading the thread in original and with an open mind.

BTW I am not saying two wrongs make a right....

So lets break it down.

Brexiters, certainly, I am sure you would agree. Chosen by the Leave EU guru for that reason as well as the same applying to other non-Govt posts. Most original Brexiters, some late converts.

Rabble, well to be honest that covers any and all politicians as far as I concerned.

So that leaves feral. Was that the word that triggered some here? Ah, bless. Anyway, "feral, adj, of or characteristic of wild animals; ferocious; brutal." I would argue that is the case, with many examples of ferocity and brutality, ranging from the effects on local populations from inevitable companies closing due to Brexit, to the hostile environment for immigrants, scandalous treatment of NHS workers, willingness to sacrifice scapegoats at the drop of a hat.

In any case, unless there is a Secretary of State lurking, it did not refer to anyone here. Yet the same faux offended are happy to take a personal pop at me.

Maybe I should have added snowflake, a term much beloved of Brexiters. Now, that's first class irony.

 

[Old Skier]

Nice to see we have a moderator who doesn't believe the rules apply to him.

Common theme with him unfortunately

 

[Billysboots]

I don't think I am a moderator any more. Don't have the moderation tools.

You might want to try and lose the “Global Moderator” tag, then.

Everyone has their own debating style, but choosing the one you do, given the suggestion you are a moderator, perhaps isn’t particularly helpful to those who do moderate this forum.

(Mod Edit, Global Mod tag removed and a word had, naughty step beckons)